Re: Its My Fault....

[Jim <alarminex@xxxxxxx>]

On Dec 16, 6:23=A0pm, nick markowitz <nmarkow...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Dec 16, 3:49=A0pm, "RockyTSquirrel" <gafa_...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > Able1, =A0anything that receives =A0is also a transmitter, =A0how else =
=A0would you
> > know it received the signal =A0 in the first place..
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> > with that said =A0most receivers =A0only transmit =A0audio, video or da=
ta range
> > signals, =A0however with the proper equipment =A0you could pickup the I=
F
> > signals from a receiver at a considerable range. (ie... =A0spy stuff)
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> > RTS
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> > "ABLE1" =A0wrote in message
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> >news:MeqOo.169961$ZM.31553@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > "nick markowitz" <nmarkow...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >news:55868ab9-0947-4a97-905f-2b1d6764b52a@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > On Dec 15, 9:48 pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > On Dec 15, 6:55 pm, nick markowitz <nmarkow...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > On Dec 15, 1:36 pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > On Dec 15, 12:49 pm, "Bob La Londe" <nos...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > That's CAD.
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> > > > > > You know its funny. I've been doing more trade in one of my hob=
bies
> > > > > > lately,
> > > > > > and I am a lot happier than when I go to my day job. My custome=
rs in
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > field all want prototypes and they either pay upfront or they d=
on't.
> > > > > > I can
> > > > > > see me getting out of contracting some day, or atleast turning =
it
> > > > > > into my
> > > > > > part time hobby.
>
> > > > > I seem to be having the same experience. I've always had a liking=
 for
> > > > > audio from when I was a kid but just never took the time to reall=
y get
> > > > > into it. In the last 10 years or so, I've been doing more and mor=
e TV,
> > > > > surround sound and home theater work. Right now, I've got more ho=
me
> > > > > theater jobs scheduled than alarm work. No RMR but people will re=
ally
> > > > > pay lots for entertainment. And the biggest reason is that buying=
 a TV
> > > > > or any type of A/V device is so complicated that the end user is
> > > > > totally lost when trying to choose. I read about 4 magazines a mo=
nth
> > > > > and browse the A/V forums and just being able to direct my custom=
er
> > > > > base on what to buy has brought me lots of business.
> > > > > Go figure. I get to work and play with equipment that I'd never b=
e
> > > > > able to afford nor even be able to utilize. Lot's of fun and I ge=
t
> > > > > paid too!!!
>
> > > > Thats Why I love being the contract Engineer at a radio station get=
 to
> > > > play with all the toys etc.
> > > > I hooked up the Arbitron encoders today so w can tell if anyone is
> > > > listening thru there portable people meters Arbitron put out couple
> > > > years ago It should be interesting.-
>
> > > I always wondered how they ever could know if anyone was listening.
>
> > > What's an Arbitron and how does it work?
>
> > Originally they used paper logs =A0and people selected in the community
> > would fill in what TV or radio stations they where watching and or
> > listening to at what times and submit these monthly to Arbitron.
> > Arbitron would then crunch the numbers so =A0advertisers and show
> > producers would know if there shows and ads where working.
> > For example in Pittsburgh Pa. =A0the no1# morning =A0drive radio show
> > listened to was always 1020 KDKA
> > and no2# was 102.5 WDVE =A0 =A0 now 104.7 WPGB an FM talker is no1#
>
> > While the logs where effective it took time =A0to get them back and
> > compile them with there new PPM equipment
> > you carry a small meter with you and it auto logs and can then be
> > downloaded via the net for closer to real time results.
>
> > What I installed yesterday is a Sub-audible encoder which inserts
> > symbols in the air stream which these PPM meters pick up pretty neat.
> > Now we will know if people are listening to our station and which
> > shows they are listening to.www.arbitron.com
>
> > Nick, =A0you are creating a cliffhanger...........................
>
> > If I understand what you just typed then the Sub-audible encode inserts
> > 'blips' on to the radio signal that can't be heard either because it is=
 to
> > low or to high for the human ear to hear. =A0These 'blips' are then bro=
adcast
> > out into the world and beyond, bouncing off the ionosphere or not and a=
re
> > then picked up by the radio receiver when someone is listening to your
> > station. =A0Then this "radio receiver" turns into a "radio transmitter"=
 that
> > then transmits the 'blips' back up to the PPM meters that collects the
> > 'blips' and you get a report of how many 'blips' are being sent and whe=
n.
> > Right??
>
> > The part that really has be hanging is how the radio receiver turns int=
o a
> > transmitter. =A0That part escapes me some how.
>
> > All very interesting and Big Brother thing wrapped into one. =A0WOW!!!
>
> > Thanks for helping me to understand the way it works.
>
> > Les
>
> The PPM =A0is a =A0powerful receiver which is designed to pick up the sub
> audible symbols being transmitted by radio and TV stations
> Think of it as an =A0Fm =A0station which transmits in stereo =A0a regular=
 am/
> fm cheap radio does not hear the stereo signal but =A0a better grade one
> will.
>
> Same ideal behind Digital AM/FM =A0transmissions =A0 there known as IBOC
> In band on channel =A0the digital signals =A0ride on
> same carrier wave the analog does. so depending which radio you have
> you can hear it all analog and digital or just analog.-


Hey Coo-well.

After I got out of the Navy, I never did anything with my RF
Experience
It's a whole other world. And now days, it's even more intricate
considering Cellular and Wireless networks.

Was a time I was considered as knowing "lots" about "electronics".
Now, ............ there's just too much to know.

Besides, now, my brain is so filled with useless information, I suffer
from a bad case of CRS. (Can't remember shit)