Re: Problem with Scantronic avenger VI

[tourman <robercampbell@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Aug 28, 12:25=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Aug 28, 9:53=A0am, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Aug 27, 10:18=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > On Aug 27, 6:35=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > On Aug 27, 3:57=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > On Aug 27, 8:21=A0am, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Aug 27, 7:47=A0am, Jim Rojas <jro...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > > Jim wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Aug 27, 12:29 am, Frank Kurz<t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> =A0wrot=
e:
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> > > > > > > >> That's not necessarily true in all cases. =A0You can't alw=
ays equate a
> > > > > > > >> "hot" battery with "dead battery". =A0Considering the alar=
m panel is
> > > > > > > >> prehistoric however, I'm thinking the OP should follow the=
 advice of our
> > > > > > > >> resident Technosaur and turf the battery. =A0I believe his=
 problems will
> > > > > > > >> become a thing of the past (just like his panel). =A0:-)
>
> > > > > > > > That's funny. ( Technosaur) Did you just make that up?
>
> > > > > > > As I remember, those panels were very troublesome, keypads wo=
re out
> > > > > > > fast, and didn't handle static electricity very well. We repl=
aced all of
> > > > > > > them within 5 years of their introduction back in the 1980's
>
> > > > > > > Jim Rojas
> > > > > > > Technical Manuals Online!http://www.tech-man.com
> > > > > > > 8002 Cornwall Lane
> > > > > > > Tampa, FL 33615-4604
> > > > > > > 813-884-6335
>
> > > > > > RHC: I've been following this thread with some interest. You ha=
ve to
> > > > > > wonder why some people insist upon putting an old clunker like =
this
> > > > > > back in service especially if it's going on line with the autho=
rities.
> > > > > > No one would try to keep a 386 computer in service today, espec=
ially
> > > > > > in a business application, but they'll try to keep an old alarm
> > > > > > clunker going forever. With panels and keypads available wholes=
ale at
> > > > > > less than $100, you really have to wonder!!!!
>
> > > > > > The other thing I still haven't figured out after 20 years in t=
he
> > > > > > business, is a customer will go out and spend $1000 on a big sc=
reen
> > > > > > TV, but not a penny on a decent alarm.....go figure-
>
> > > > > Only a thousand??? =A0 I had a couple I was called in to give the=
m a
> > > > > quote on an alarm system at $1500.00 and they put me off but sche=
duled
> > > > > me in to do a $5000.00 home theater installation that the owner h=
ad
> > > > > all the equipment and was going to attempt but got cold feet when=
 he
> > > > > saw how much there was to it.
>
> > > > > Of course, I turned them down ..... (yeh sure ....;-> i figure no=
w
> > > > > that they saw what I could do with the HT they'll call me back fo=
r the
> > > > > alarm.
>
> > > > > That's the " I Want My MTV" =A0generation for ya.
>
> > > > RHC: Yeah, it also might be that an alarm system is not a "fun thin=
g"
> > > > to buy; it's seem by many as simply an unfortunate but necessary
> > > > purchase that they would rather do without. So it makes it easy to =
go
> > > > cheap, or not go at all.
>
> > > > Had another interesting thing happen today. I had confirmed an
> > > > installation for today a couple of days ago as I always do, and whe=
n
> > > > we arrived, there was no one to be seen. Since the guy was a doctor=
,
> > > > he couldn't be reached, so pissed off as hell, I left my card in th=
e
> > > > door and went home. A wasted day !! He calls my son later and gives=
 no
> > > > reasons for not being there, and no apologies, so my son said I wou=
ld
> > > > call back and reschedule.
>
> > > > Yah right, when hell freezes over!! =A0As a doctor, he can leave me
> > > > waiting for hours and I put up with it because I know his time is
> > > > valuable, =A0but he doesn't have the decency to treat my time as
> > > > valuable as well. I'm thinking =A0should send him a bill for a day'=
s
> > > > labour and see how he likes that.....
>
> > > > Prick !!-
>
> > > Now Robert!!!!!!!
> > > I know that you and I don't have the same kind of philosophy in all
> > > things but I can't imagine that you'd miss an opportunity like this,
> > > especially with a "doctor"
>
> > > Simply call him back ...... make an appointment to start the job earl=
y
> > > in the morning......... and when the time comes for you to be there,
> > > give him a call, tell him you ran into a little delay and that you'll
> > > be there within two hours. When that time comes, call him and tell hi=
m
> > > that you're en-route and will be there within a half hour ...... then
> > > call him and tell him that you hope he enjoyed wasting his time the
> > > way he wasted yours but you've decided that you prefer to deal with
> > > people who have more consideration for others. And that if he would
> > > treat you that way BEFORE you were doing business together, that you
> > > couldn't imagine what he would do to you once you were more involved.
> > > Have a nice day................
>
> > RHC: Yeah, wouldn't that be great feeling of "gotcha". However, life
> > is too short to engage in these sorts of activities, no matter how
> > justified they might be. Things in life that go around, usually come
> > around. Who knows, why leave someone who might affect future business
> > with a bad taste in their mouth. People like this would probably have
> > no problem "bad mouthing" my company in a crowd somewhere no matter
> > how unjustified it is....
>
> > People like that are just not worth bothering with when all is said
> > and done. Dealing with idiots is just the price you have to pay
> > sometimes when in business....-
>
> Hmmm, obviously you're in a smaller "community" then I am.
>
> "Bad mouthing" a business in my area is like a fart in a windstorm,
> unless your a mega company.

RHC: Well I wouldn't call a city of a million people a small
community. However, this is a heavy government and high tech area, and
everyone is connected together via company and government newsgroups
and blogs on the internet. Employees of several of the larger
companies in town, as well as a number of government agencies, often
discuss who they got their alarm from, and it helps if everyone
recommends you. I am told, it makes it a lot easier for everyone
reading the newsgroup to make a good purchase, since they don't have
to start their shopping from ground zero - others have done the
research.

However, as unfair as it might be, if someone "dis's" you up there for
whatever reason, this can cost you a lot of sales. In business, it's
also never wise to burn your bridges behind you.....