Re: Which system is better?

[too fat for a ladder <alarminstall@xxxxxxx>]

On Sep 6, 10:51 pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Sep 6, 9:15 pm, too fat for a ladder <alarminst...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Sep 6, 8:04 pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > On Sep 6, 5:10 pm, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > On Sep 6, 12:25 pm, too fat for a ladder <alarminst...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > On Sep 5, 10:38 pm, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Sep 5, 11:05 am, Frank Olson
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> > > > > > <use_the_email_li...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > > If so, the operators don't even see the alarm if it's turned off
> > > > > > > > by the client within 30 seconds.
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> > > > > > > We don't use a dialler delay (if that's what you're meaning).  I have
> > > > > > > yet to see a client disarm a system within 30 seconds of an alarm,
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> > > > > > That's a joke right? Most customers I've seen have no problem
> > > > > > disarming within that amount of time, if they can't then they've
> > > > > > forgotten the code or something. <
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> > > > > 90% of the bullshit would be solved if these lemonheads would start
> > > > > using 2 way voice, but why spend a few extra bucks on something that
> > > > > might save a life or reduce false dispatches?
> > > > > Dialer delays further expose the end user's safety and security in a
> > > > > true emergency. Dialer delays should be tossed out the door.
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> > > > I second the 2-way voice recommendation
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> > > RHC: Whaaaat....are you guys joking? This is what Alarmfarce push in
> > > their bullshit pitches.....Tom, this is NOT funny......:))) <
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> > Bob just because AlarmForce offers 2 way voice that doesn't make that
> > particular quality of monitoring out to be bullshit. Using your logic
> > then your company, and anyone else using digital monitoring must be
> > pitching bullshit because that's what Crimebusters/ABC Security
> > offers.
> > I recommend you sit through a demonstration of 2 way voice response
> > before jumping to conclusions. When properly installed it is 1000x
> > better than digital could ever be. 2 way puts the operator in the
> > house with you. The operator is able to monitor the situation even if
> > you can't get to the phone. I'll finish this later because the wife is
> > pitching a bitch.
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> RHC: Come on...get serious...LOL. If this is such a great thing, why
> is the only company (Alarmforce) using it a complete scam. Even if it
> was something that a serious company would actually consider, how can
> a voice listen in feature be anything but confusing to an operator.
> Besides, assuming someone is home, the only difference is a fraction
> of a second between a house connection through the mickey mouse
> speaker, and answering a phone call. And if there is no one home to
> answer the phone, and the operator has to spend time "listening in",
> this delays calls to the balance of the calling list. Besides what is
> he or she to do at that point, since it's pretty obvious that a
> burglar on premises is sure as hell not going to answer any query
> coming over the squawk box. She might hear him trashing the place, but
> I very much doubt that if the speaker is in the keypad the burglar is
> elsewhere in the bedroom. So what does dead silence tell the
> operator ?
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> I can't believe this is anything other than a marketing gimmick which
> has great appeal to an uninformed consumer, but little value
> otherwise. However, if I'm wrong I'm more than willing to listen to
> valid arguments otherwise. If it's so great, why don't all the
> monitoring stations push it to the industry.
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> There is a well informed gentleman who often frequents the newsgroup
> who is part of a large monitoring station made up of dealer owners.
> His first name is Ron something or other....I'd sure like to hear his
> opinion on the pluses and minuses of this sort of response
> methodology. <

Are you sure you're not Sicilian? You are thick as a brick ya old
buzzard. I'm letting Mark explain it because the wife is still up my
ass. BTW check my damn websites and give your opinion ya fucking
canuck curmudgeon.