Re: Call setup... does it have to go to a monitoring company?

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Good job.

You forgot the part about the panel having the home phone line seized while
it is wasting time  talking to dead air, so wife can't dial 911 if she
needed to.

 Oh wait, maybe there is no line seizure, in which case the bad guy just
took the phone off the hook so it couldn't dial out.





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**Crash Gordon**







"JoeRaisin" <joeraisin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:Dn2nl.8524$FI5.2478@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Dave wrote:
>> On Feb 18, 11:17 am, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> And your concerned only about when your home. So what?  When the alarm
>>> goes off and doesn't alert anyone else, you're going to do exactly
>>> what?   Shoot it out with the bad guys?
>>
>> So if an intruder comes in, hears the alarm and decides to stay, I
>> should just cross my fingers and "hope for the best" while ADT/Brinks
>> calls the police?  Do you really think I have 5 minutes to spare while
>> I wait for the police?  It's better to be prepared and have the guts
>> to face the intruder if they come after you.  The Brinks/ADT
>> commercials are nice and all, but reality is much harsher.  There will
>> always be a few minutes that you're on your own, regardless of whether
>> or not you're monitored.
>>
>> Secondly, when the alarm goes off, the police will be alerted... by
>> us!  Last I checked, police still take calls from private citizens.
>> We're lucky in that we live in a town where 911 calls go straight to
>> the dispatcher.
>>
>> Do you work in the industry?  It sounds like you have beef against
>> people that are willing to do it themselves..?
>>
>>
>> Dave
>
> A 'beef' against you?  I wouldn't put it that way.
>
> But, some of us do take it a little personally.  We make our living
> selling peace of mind and we truly believe in the products and services we
> provide.
>
> We believe in monitoring because we have seen it work to help catch
> thieves, save property from fire or frozen water lines and even, from time
> to time, save lives.
>
> Because we understand the gravity of what is at stake, the industry has
> spent a lot of time and money on technology that ensures we are there when
> you need us there, can notify the appropriate responders quickly and with
> as much information as we possibly can.
>
> When you claim that you can do the same thing with your cell phone it
> really discounts what we do, and shows (at least in our opinion) that you
> don't fully understand the difference between what we provide and what you
> would be able to do.
>
> I'll provide a quick compare/contrast.  Granted it poses an extreme
> example, but Murphy has a tendency to pay close attention to things like
> this and loves to take advantage.
>
> You are meeting a client (or a friend, group of buddies, whatever) at a
> restaurant for an evening.  Wife and kids are home.
>
> Furnace takes a dump, starts filling the house with carbon monoxide.
>
> You go in the restaurant and accidentally leave your cell phone plugged
> into the charger in your car.
>
> The CO detector trips, siren goes off but everyone is muggy from the gas
> because the installer disagreed with my opinion of where the detector
> should be mounted and it was too high/low.  They aren't able to respond
> intelligently to the siren and smoke detectors screaming all over the
> house.  They're awake but either flopping around on the bed or couch, or
> wandering around totally confused.
>
> This is where the situations diverge:
>
> 1) the panel calls the central station who notifies the fire department
> that your address is full of Carbon Monoxide and they roll the appropriate
> rescue and medical response.
>
> 2) the panel calls your cell phone.  It stays on the line a long time
> waiting to get the handshake so the static does manage to leave a voice
> mail... ten times.
>
> 1) the central station calls you cell phone to notify you of the
> situation.  You come out after dinner (or whatever) and get the message
> from central station.  You call home and Deputy Rogers answers the phone
> as he has been left to watch over the premises after the fire department
> smashed in the front door (you know how they love to do that).  He tells
> you that they got there just in time and gives you name of the hospital
> that your family has been taken to.  He reminds that your furnace does not
> work and the windows are all open so it might be a good idea to call your
> heating guy after you get to the hospital.
>
> 2) You come out after dinner (or whatever) and get the messages (static)
> from your home phone number.  You're pretty quick on the draw so you have
> figured it out by the beginning of the third hissy message.  You call 911
> and tell them your alarm went off thirty five minutes ago. They ask if it
> is a fire alarm or a burglar alarm.  You don't know. They tell you that
> they will send a cruiser by.  Did you know they probably won't respond
> with lights and siren?  You head for home as quickly as you can knowing
> that you don't want to risk the delay of a ticket (or having to explain to
> the officer before he lets you go)
>
> 1) You get to the hospital where your wife is already fully recovered and
> sitting with the kids who are still on oxygen, but awake.  They will be
> ready to go home in a couple hours.  You call Jimmy (your furnace guy) who
> is glad to hear that everyone is all right and is more than happy to head
> over to your house and check your furnace out.
>
> 2) You get to your house to find a few police cars, a couple fire trucks
> and an ambulance.  A police officer stops you at the driveway and tells
> you to talk to that fire captain over there before you try to enter your
> home which is now known as, "the scene of the incident."
>
> 1) You get to your house, which has already warming up, Jimmy is just
> packing up his tools.  He greets you and your family saying how glad he is
> to see everyone's doing so well.  The furnace is fixed and in light of the
> situation he is only charging you for parts.
>
> I told you it was gonna be an extreme example.  No furnace guy is only
> going to charge for parts, but everyone forgets their cell phone once in a
> great while.
>
> Kidding aside, I tell you this from personal experience and in all
> sincerity -
>
> You do NOT want to find yourself sitting at a funeral KNOWING you could
> have prevented it if only you had...
>