Re: programming an Ademco Vista

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

most are n/c unless  you have one with n/c com n/o
resistOrs are required on any loop if you're using EOL in program

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**Crash Gordon**







<rickm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Apr 27, 11:23 am, Frank Olson
> <use_the_email_li...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> ri...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> > On Apr 26, 3:51 pm, JoeRaisin <joerai...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> ri...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> >>> On Apr 24, 3:31 pm, "Crash Gordon" <webmas...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> cool...have fun!
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> **Crash Gordon**
>> >>>> <ri...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> >>>>> On Apr 23, 8:53 pm, "Crash Gordon"
>> >>>>> <webmas...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> *182 is for custom zones
>> >>>>>> just use *56 area and the zone types I gave or any of the standard
>> >>>>>> ones
>> >>>>>> on
>> >>>>>> page 12
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> **Crash Gordon**
>> >>>>>> <ri...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>news:93867c25-3c02-49f0-bb59-cdcd03d85e62@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>>>> On Apr 22, 10:08 pm, "Crash Gordon"
>> >>>>>>> <webmas...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> I hardly ever use customizable zone types.
>> >>>>>>>> Is there a reason you don't want to use normal zone types?
>> >>>>>>>> 01 Entry/Exit #1 - delayed doors
>> >>>>>>>> 03 Perimeter - instant doors/windows
>> >>>>>>>> 04 Interior Follower - interior device (pir) that follows entry
>> >>>>>>>> delay
>> >>>>>>>> if
>> >>>>>>>> delay zones are faulted first... but instant in other cases
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> **Crash Gordon**
>> >>>>>>>> <ri...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>news:d3ddc02b-3c86-4da5-b671-44da1576e835@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>>>>>> Has anyone programmed an Ademco Vista 20P? Whats a typical
>> >>>>>>>>> entry
>> >>>>>>>>> for
>> >>>>>>>>> *182:
>> >>>>>>>>> 1) door switches
>> >>>>>>>>> 2) IR motion
>> >>>>>>>>> thanks
>> >>>>>>> Im after just a vanilla setup, the manual implies that *182 is
>> >>>>>>> required so thats what I was trying to get working.
>> >>>>>>> Sounds like that is not right so Im open. Is *56 the right field?
>> >>>>> after *97 and *56, the Vista finally came up and showed some life.
>> >>>>> testing is next
>> >>>>> Thanks!!!- Hide quoted text -
>> >>>> - Show quoted text -
>> >>> Something is still not right. The system is up, will arm and both
>> >>> pads are talking to the main box yet none of the sensors trip the
>> >>> alarm.
>> >>> The motion sensor is getting power and is functioning. The door
>> >>> switch worked on the old main box. I tried "test" and "chime" mod and
>> >>> they do nothing. There are no error mesages or faults.
>> >>> The old alarm had each connection wired with a series resistor. This
>> >>> manual doesnt really say if the resister should be connected
>> >>> door -------------------------- HI
>> >>> switch ---------------/\/\/\/\-----LO
>> >>> IR -------------------------- HI
>> >>> sensor ---------------/\/\/\/\-----LO
>> >>> pwr ---------------------------aux +
>> >>> gnd ---------------------------aux -
>> >>> Is this correct? any suggestion on what to check?
>> >> turn on chime and remove one leg of a door circuit from the panel.
>>
>> >> If you don't hear the chime go back and review the programming for the
>> >> zones to make sure that you have the zone programmed for the proper
>> >> zone
>> >> type and not just zeroed out.
>>
>> >> If you do hear the chime then you need to meter your wire and the door
>> >> contacts to find out which is malfunctioning.
>>
>> >> Motion detector zones won't chime but you can do those and the doors
>> >> as
>> >> well using 'walk test' - its in manual...- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > In the home stretch!!!....The doors were set to EOL instead of N/C so
>> > they are now working. The IR motion is not working
>> > though. Ive tried NO ever mode and it fails the walk test. The other
>> > zones report a fault and chime but the IR doesnt report
>> > anything. I enabled the sensor's LED and its getting power and
>> > "see's" movement. I have it set to TYPE4 and NC which
>> > allows the system to come READY. I have the inline resister on the
>> > LO side on the panel.
>>
>> > any thoughts?
>>
>> > Thanks
>>
>> You don't need the resistor if your loops are programmed N/C (no EOL).
>> Set the IR loop as a perimeter/chime for testing after you remove the
>> resistor. I'd close by saying "RTFM", but the Ademco products are a bit
>> of a challenge to program for a novice. Glad things are workin' out.
>> Keep us posted on your progress.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Frank Olson- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Im replacing an Ademco 4030 which required a series resistor on each
> loop.  Do you
> recommend removing the resistor on both the doors and IR?
>
> Also, the documentation for the IR does not specify if its N/C or N/
> O.   What the typical setting?
> If N/O, is a resisor required?
>
> THANKS!!!!!