Re: Hook in AC Fire Alarms to Security System

["Robert L Bass" <robertbass1@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I had been deliberately ignoring this thread.  Olson is wrong.

"Tommy" <tommy at leesecurity.net> wrote in message news:12qfrn3kra4s0ac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Frank,
> read the post. I said that no one here would probably recommend that. I put the probably in since I cannot speak for any one but
> myself. however this has been gone over before, and the feelings of most are pretty obvious.
>
> The rest of your post... right on the money.
>
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> "Frank Olson" <Use_the_email_links@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:idNph.617908$5R2.177503@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Tommy wrote:
>>> I looked up a link for them. www.cepcoproducts.com  They want to monitor smoke alarms over a PLC or "X-10" type system. Tell me
>>> i'm wrong.  As unreliable as x-10 can be, there is no way i or probably anyone here would recommend using this as an alarm
>>> signal.
>>>
>>> After looking at their website, code or not, I just could not trust a power line type system to operate reliably enough for a
>>> life safety application
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>> First of all I don't think anyone here would *recommend* using (or even propose installing) an AC smoke detector as a life safety
>> device (regardless of the fact that it may incorporate a back-up battery).  The *proper* way to provide fire detection in any
>> situation is to use smoke detectors/alarms that are powered & *supervised* by a listed burglar or fire panel.  Of course, Bass
>> will jump in and state that as soon as you connect any smoke detector or heat detector to a listed burg panel, it magically
>> transforms into a fire alarm system.  He'll also argue (until he's blue in the face) that you *can't* tie in an AC smoke alarm to
>> a burg panel (or communicator); that it's against code (he'll even quote the definitions listed in NFPA) to support his argument
>> while totally ignoring NFPA 72-2002 11.7.6.7.
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