Re: DCS Power 832

["Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

>I very pleased that someone who seems to be an expert on everything
>else in the world, has realized this.
I am not an actor and seldom study how I come across to others. Thanks for
the reminder that I do appear to others as a "know it all" too much of the
time. I certainly don't perceive myself or try to represent myself as that.
The list of things I know little or nothing about is far too vast to begin
to describe here. I am curious by nature and pretending I know something
doesn't serve my interests to always be able to find out more.

>even if there was any "deep-seated" psychological event
I was not trying to discover a genesis to any pathology you may or may not
have. I merely posed my question in such a poor fashion as to let that seem
to be a possible answer. I don't bother with trying to decide how mentally
unstable someone is or isn't. I tend to believe the only normal people are
the ones you don't know very well.


>he will never ask for forgiveness
I am not a good predictor of what someone may or may not do. However I have
always believed that to forgive someone for a slight, real  or perceived,
requires work from the forgiver. Something must occur to tilt the balance so
that the forgiver decides that the person being forgiven merits the effort
of the forgiver. As a practical matter you have decided that Bass has not
yet met that threshold.

>YOU might expect there be a "balance"
I don't expect anything. The balance I was trying to measure was the deed
versus the damn. I can't say that I understand any more than I did before,
but that is only because I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer, and
still can't quite cut through it. Thanks for taking the time to explain it.

"Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1168131073.448079.100900@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Roland Moore wrote:
>> You know Jim you seem to have an idea as to how everyone here ticks.
>
> I very pleased that someone who seems to be an expert on everything
> else
> in the world, has realized this.
>
>> I don't
>> know how accurate those ideas are, but nevertheless you make your
>> observations. There is one area I feel certain you are an expert on. That
>> being you of course.
>
> That feeling, is obviously mutual.
>
>> I don't understand the calculus of declaring that since
>> someone has led a less than stellar life in your opinion, that equates to
>> some form of joy on your part in their suffering. It is a calculus that
>> just
>> won't balance for me or I suspect with most folks.
>
> I'm sorry to say that your prescience is lacking in this regard. I, in
> fact,
> don't find any "joy" in telling Bass what I think of him. You see, you
> might just say that he's a passing hobby with me. He is of no
> consequence
> except that it is only right that someone who has leveled this, what
> could
> be great forum, to a brawling sewer, be constantly reminded of what he
> is and what he's done. I do this with no effort or any conscience. He
> is
> beneath any of these usual considerations that might be given to
> someone
> else. He's proven again and again that he has no remorse for what he's
> done to others and like wise, I feel, he should expect no quarter in
> return.
> I use the theory, that once you have your enemy down, the only proper
> next step, is to beat him to a pulp. I would expect nothing more if the
>
> situation were reversed. Your enemy should never have an excuse
> to forget, that you won. I'm sure he will never ask for forgiveness for
> what he's done and therefore it will never be offered. Forgiveness can
> only be bestowed on those who ask for it. I know that he's
> intelligent enough to know what he's caused and done to people, but
> will continue to claim his right to do whatever he wants to do
> regardless
> of how it affects others. I will continue to object to his conduct and
> treat
> him as badly as I can, in this type of forum, short of going real life
> with him.
> I know that if he were to be able to find out my personal information,
> that
> he would not do likewise. As far as I'm concerned, Bass will carry his
> legacy to his grave. I will be here and  at every opportunity, remind
> him of
> what he is, until his last breath. He deserves nothing better than
> that.
>
> YOU might expect there be a "balance" and I'm sure that there are
> others,
> that in spite of his transgressions, that would think the same.
> Obviously, I don't.
> You can like it or not. Or understand it or not. It is and will remain
> so until
> he dies. And good riddance. When his time comes and he's no longer here
> to
> claim his innocence, although I'd be hard put to get many to state it,
> you can
> be sure, Roland, that there are many, many people who think the same,
> but
> don't have the social courage to say it.
>
> What a relief it will be, when he's gone.
>
> And considering his denial and continued repudiation of all that he's
> done
> to the Newsgroup and the people in it and those who're no longer here,
> because of him .......  he should know that. He should know that now
> and as he approaches his extinction. He's a miscreant, lying thief. A
> trouble maker with out conscience or remorse. One of those people with
> enough intelligence, education and experience to do good things but
> instead, uses his talents for taunting, belittling and ridiculing
> people.
> He deserves to be treated as he treats others and worse. And worse,
> because he has the ability to NOT conduct himself the way he does,
> but does it consciously and intentionally .....which makes is all the
> more intolerable.
>
>
>
>> RHC is not in a minority
>> when he is truly put off by such an attitude.
>
> You show your lack of history here by commenting on what is between
> Bob Campbell and I. I'm sure that my comments to Bass, have some
> bearing, but he and I go back long before you. As a matter of fact I
> don't
> recall if Bob C. and I have ever dialoged about Bass. Although I'm
> sure he doesn't agree with me on that ugly subject. On the other hand,
> Bob C has commented negatively on some of the things that Bass has
> done, with out my encouragement. It's just his choice, as it is with
> some
> of the others, that in spite of their disagreement with what Bass does,
>
> they choose to stay out of the fray, on both sides. I'm sure that
> they're
> aware that if they make comment about the objections that people make
> about Bass that they'd also better be prepared to defend what he's done
> to make this Newgroup the bilge that it is.  (Hint hint)
>
>>You have stated your reasons
>> for your feelings, but I just can't parse it out. I don't necessarily
>> deserve an explanation, but your thinking that one group dastardly deeds,
>> even committed over a lifetime, deserves such taunting at any misfortune
>> is,
>> and remains, baffling to me; not to mention just plain flawed. You might
>> think you understand how your taunting impacts others, and thus show a
>> devil
>> may care attitude, but believe me most folks are going to be offended and
>> perplexed.
>
> I would expect that some others would not be as explicit as I, in my
> lack of
> concern about the demise of this piece of shit, but I don't see much
> objection
> to it either. I'm sure that most understand that if they're going to
> complain
> about anything that I do here, they'd damn well better start
> complaining
> about what Bass has done, and continues to do here and his continued
> lack
> of interest in taking responsibility for it and his denial that it's in
> the condition
> that it's in, is due to his attitude towards people. All who've been
> here for
> any length of time know of that which I speak. Only time tells the
> whole story
> of his abhorrent conduct that deserves no quarter.
>
>> I know you are capable of being candid enough to describe the
>> situation if the shoe were on the other foot. If you were reading a post
>> fashioned like yours that you didn't agree with, you would (or at least
>> you
>> have in the past) launch into a description of some sort about that
>> person
>> making some harsh and critical remarks. If you care to, try to dissect
>> yourself and your motives in as much detail as you have others here. I am
>> not interested in a list of perceived misdeeds by Bass, just the
>> reasoning,
>> if any exists, behind your thought process. It seems there is someone
>> like
>> Bass, or you see Bass like someone that, in the past, has offended or
>> wronged you far beyond what Bass has done or is capable of doing.
>
> Not that you deserve any explanation .... and certainly aren't worth
> the
> effort, even if there was any "deep-seated" psychological event in my
> past, as you seem to imply. What Bass has done here is wrong. What
> he's done in his real life, is wrong. The man has no regard for social
> contract, and puts everyone who doesn't agree with him in the category
> of a fool. He lies constantly by saying that all the things said about
> him
> are a lie. In spite of the fact that it's all laid out in black in
> white,
> recorded in Usenet. Confronted with the proof of his own actions,
> provable, as written by him, the man even lies about his lies.
> Un-fucking believeable!
>
> But, if I remember right, I once said that I would say no more on the
> subject.
>
> Ditto.
>
> It is, what it is, Roland. But never fear. That which you find
> objectionable,
> will end, in a somewhat reasonable amount of time ..... I'm sure.
>