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Re: DSC Power832



CH®IS wrote:
> "alarman" wrote...
>>
>> Well, lets see...we drive to your house, let's say 1/2 hour.
>
> If it's in town here it'll be half that at most (small city).  Out of
> town, we'll either charge for travel or we'll add it to a day when
> we're in that area.  If you're in a larger city (as you most likely
> are), half an hour is a good start.
>
>> Your programming time of three minutes is unrealistic, since the
>> system would need to be fully checked to see how the zones need to
>> be configured so that we know HOW to program the system, minimum 1/2
>> hour.
>
> In this case, the zone list is written on the keypad, and nothing
> appears to be scratched out or added.  Check the panel to ensure
> there are still only 7 zones and it's not a rat's nest of wire to be
> a little more confident.
>> Now we do the programming, test the system, demonstrate it, another
>> 1/2 hour minimum.
>
> I'll give you 5 minutes to have a look at the system, 3 minutes to
> program, another 5 minutes for testing, training (with a competent
> user) should be less than 5 minutes.  So I'm up to 18 minutes for all
> that.  Did you have lunch with them during the training?
>
>> This is if all goes well of course, which it never does.
>
> I'll give you that one.  Always depends on the original installation.
>
>> Just after you finish the demo to the Mrs., Mr. homeowner comes home
>> and you'll need to do it again.
>
> So another 5 minutes?  I find that the one who was there will often
> explain it all to the one who wasn't, so I just listen in to make
> sure they don't screw it up.
>
>> And when was the last time you went to reactivate an existing system
>> and everything worked perfectly?
>
> I've done at least 3 in the past couple of weeks that were perfect. One
> almost perfectly, except it needed a new surface contact.  Then
> again, we don't have a door knocker in the area to install crap
> either, I assume most people on here do.
>
>> It doesn't happen that way, repairs and/or adjustments will almost
>> certainly need to be made, so another 1/2 hour, minimum. Now I have
>> a BARE MINIMUM of 2 hours invested in this project, have assumed
>> liability for the entire system, (no contract, remember), and all
>> for $50. Out of this, I pay for gasoline, service truck, vehicle,
>> liability, and E/O insurance, telephone, licensing, taxes, tools,
>> etc.
>
> You have a bare minimum of 2 hours.  I have a bare minimum of 38
> minutes, plus a couple more here and there for the chatty types
> you'll inevitably run into when you're in a hurry.  I'm still missing
> your point on the liability issues (just an installer, I don't run
> the company).  No contract means less paperwork and less time.  I'll
> pay a little in gas, you'll be stuck in traffic for your extra 82
> minutes paying more for gas.  As for the rest of it, it's all part of
> the business.  If you weren't paying it, you wouldn't be getting paid.
>
> - Chris

OK, now I understand. When (if) you run your own business, so will you.
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js





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