Re: OT: Physicians for a National Health Program

["Roland Moore" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx>]

> The purpose of a business is to turn a profit, the purpose of a health
care
> system is to care for peoples health. I don't beleive its possible to
> reconcile the two goals in a single entity.

By the number of government run or not for profit groups that run hospitals
or groups of hospitals some people agree obviously. Nevertheless there are
for profit hospitals that seem to serve their patients needs. If they didn't
they'd be out of business.


"Doug" <not@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> The purpose of a business is to turn a profit, the purpose of a health
care
> system is to care for peoples health. I don't beleive its possible to
> reconcile the two goals in a single entity. In order for the insurance
> company to make a profit it has to weed out those who pose an unacceptable
> risk. A risk that is not neccesarily dependant on a persons lifestyle or
> behaviour.
>
>
> Doug
>
> --
>
> "Roland Moore" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:475aafde$0$8804$4c368faf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > The purpose of any business, large or small, is to generate a profit.
> > Honeywell is no different. Folks' lives get ground up in corporate
> > restructuring all the time. Any of those folks could have decided to
start
> > their own business or simply work elsewhere. I missed the part where
> > Honeywell did something illegal. Honeywell isn't Enron. No one is going
to
> > jail there.
> > Since when did you start gulping down Bass' political Kool Aid
> >
> >
> > "Jim Rojas" <jrojas@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:475a2a0a$0$28848$4c368faf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> I'm just saying that with our current healthcare system, many billions
> >> of dollars could have been going to help the 46+ million who have no
> >> coverage, instead of lining the pockets of over indulging healthcare
> >> providers.
> >>
> >> Think of it this way. What happens if you were to lose your job? Or
your
> >> company downsizes? Or closes its doors? What happens to your coverage
> >> then? What happens to your 401K? Are you just going to continue to pay
> >> out of pocket until you find another job? With what money do you plan
to
> >> do this with? Most Americans live paycheck to paycheck. Will your
> >> present company be around when you retire? Will you get fired before
you
> >> are eligible to collect a pension? Will that pension be enough to live
> >> on?
> >>
> >> I worked for Honeywell (HPS) from 1980 to 1986...there I was, working
> >> for a multi-billion dollar corporation. Yet I saw real no future there.
> >> Imagine that. Back in 1986 I had foreseen that this company would not
> >> survive long enough for me to retire. So imagine my complete surprise
> >> that they were long gone...all those poor souls who gave this company
> >> 25+ years of their life...lost pensions, company stocks splitting
> >> several times, and not enough in the 401K...It was just a job...now
> >> those same people find themselves starting all over again to try and
> >> gain what they lost.
> >>
> >> Sure I am a bit emotional. But how many of you out there are tired of
> >> getting hosed by big businesses? Anyone?
> >>
> >> Jim Rojas
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark Leuck wrote:
> >> > "Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >
> >
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> >> > On Dec 7, 10:21?am, Jim Rojas <jro...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> We cannot afford to be silent any longer...
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www./about_pnhp.php
> >> >>
> >> >> About PNHP
> >> >> Physicians for a National Health Program is a single issue
> >> >> organization
> >> >> advocating a universal, comprehensive single-payer national health
> >> >> program. PNHP has more than 14,000 members and chapters across the
> >> >> United States.
> >> >>
> >> > Hello?    Hello?
> >> >
> >> > Hillary?     is that you?
> >> >
> >> > Yep .... it must be.
> >> >
> >> > I can't think of any other ignoramus that would think that anything
> >> > like health care could be administered by one orgainization,
> >> > especially the govenment.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Lol I was thinking exactly the same thing, everytime it's tried in
any
> > other
> >> > country it fails
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
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