Re: Press "1" for English

["Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes you're right Petem, NOW everyone knows when things are really tough the
words "we're going to send in the French" really strikes terror in the heart
of any enemy. I just typed the words and I wet my pants. Okay maybe I was
giggling a little too.
The second best plane thing might makes some sense. I am not a pilot, but
many pilots have told me when they hear the name Dessault they think it
makes for a good number 2. It stinks as much but is harder to flush.
"Who was Von Braun?" I think he was a swell guy. He personally licked
Hitler's ass to get funds to build a terror weapon using Jewish slave labor.
What's not to like about any of that? He showed enough loyalty to his
country to figure out how change sides at the last minute, yet still stay
out of prison and keep working on his pet project. That was real rocket
science. Had to give up the Jews though. Didn't matter much because his boss
had already arranged to get rid of most of them anyway. Too bad Von Braun
didn't live long enough to get his US citizenship revoked and then get sent
back to Wyrzysk.  This guy only had a concern for getting the rocket up.
Caring about where it landed and its payload? Not so much. I wouldn't call
his achievements the greatest anything. Even with 7,000 deaths from his
science project to claim, he still only gets honorable mention at the mass
murdering awards. Would the USA have made it to the moon without Von Braun?
Probably not yet. Should that have kept him out of Spandau Prison? No, I
think he and Hess should have been playing cards until the end for them
both.
The atom bomb thing was a bit more complicated. The Nazi regime ran Leo
Szilard and his Jewish pals out of Dodge. That motivated them to create a
real monster to stop a perceived monster. The USA just happened to have the
cash and the desire to make it all come together. Poor Leo and his buddies
got kicked out of the club they started so they can't get the type of credit
Von Braun does for the rocket. Anyway their monster got loose. We are all
still suffering.
Vietnam? There is a difference between losing a war and losing interest. Yes
we all know how good things have been for the Vietnamese since the USA
bugged out. How long does it take to paddle from Hanoi to Hong Kong? I think
a lot of Vietnamese could tell you down to the number of strokes.
The French in Africa? Come on! Some of my African buddies remember the
French as fondly as they do the British. My Ashanti buddy really liked the
idea of creating political boundries that made no sense with respect to
tribal and other geographical ties within their society. One look at Africa
today shows the results of real French genius and stewardship in action. The
aftermath truly speaks for itself.
Yes we all remember the French Explorers. Good thing the King of France sent
an Italian Giovanni da Verrazano in first to sniff around what would become
Canada. With his maps and the ones made by the Portuguese Gaspar Corte-Real
and the Italian with an English name John Cabot, the rest of the French you
mention managed not to get lost. But that's about it. Too bad, most people
still wish the French would get lost.
The grape thing has to do more with the Biomes. France is in the Paleartic
Biogeographical Realm. The Atlantic mixed forests span the wine making
countries you describe but France uniquely also has the Alps conifer and
mixed forest as well as the NE Spain and Southern France Mediterranean
forests. Again good wine making for the French is an accident of geography,
nothing more. Maybe if the French made great sake or Du Kang they might have
a winning technique to crow about. I think they may need to forget about the
grapes and start with the prunes instead. That might help with all that
number 2 thing they're full of.

"Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> like everywhere man said you sum it up..NOT...
>
> You look only at the past,when I speak of now
>
> the airplane I am talking about are there fighter for there army,ok they
> are not as good as yours,but they are still second best
> how many country can say that? and how many country do have know how on
> build fighter plane?yup I was talking about Dassault
>
> when you talk about the know how coming from somewhere else,fine you got
> it,but who are you to say that's its not ok to do so,when you used German
> engineer and scientist to build some of your greatest achievement after
> WW2? who is Von Braun?
>
> http://history.msfc.nasa.gov/vonbraun/index.html
>
> For the Atomic bomb we all know where the know how came from..scientist
> that fled Europe....
>
> so don't give me crap about know how here...
>
> About the army...
>
> In the last 50 years USA even if there the almighty one didn't do much
> also,who won against the small country called Vietnam?
> and in Irmak right now..don't tell me you are winning!
>
> the Indochina war that France had fought,was no pleasure party and they
> did won a lot of terrain there,then they decided that it was no use to
> continue cause the Vietnamese where fighting in a guerrilla type war and
> that there was no way to win this kind of war,they understood  and
> left,some lost a lot in less years there,and still left....
>
> But let ask this question,if France was so dumb why did they had close to
> half of Africa under there control for a pretty long time?
> they must have been able to do some correct stuff? But that you don't
> recall...its not helping your triad...
>
> they have 134000 man (not counting civilian that work for them)just in the
> standard army,not counting the air force and the marine force...
> that's not a small army for a country that is more on the resolution of
> trouble that on the creation of it..
>
> And you make me laugh about Lewis and Clark ,have you ever learned
> anything in school about some guys named Lafaillette?LaSalle?Joliet?they
> were exploring the country way before Lewis and Clark were even born...
>
> Now lets be clear about wine,does grape only grow in France?in know that a
> big part of south Germany is at the same level as France and have the same
> type of climate and soil,the same for north of Spain and Italy,I must say
> that they do make good wine in Italy but not at the same level then
> France,about Beer,the best beer are from Belgium,England do make good
> beer,Bass beer is very good(too bad that its not the same thing when it
> comes for some here that have the same name) ,but just here we do as
> good,in fact a small company named Unibrou ( now part of Sleeman) won a
> lot of contest against all those great beer maker,look like making beer is
> not rocket science...but still I prefer beer over wine,especially if they
> are from a microbrewer from here...
>
> And about looking about the wall that is coming ,just look straight in
> front of you wont miss it..
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> "Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de news:
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>>I have been puzzled by this post since I read it. Let me see didn't you
>>say "tell be why they produce great airplane?" Well certainly that is not
>>a universally accepted fact, but let's take that at face value and say it
>>is so for discussion sake.You mean a single aircraft then? Where is it?
>>Okay maybe a typo, a great aircraft company then? That could only mean
>>Dassault? Right? Well it is a poorly keep secret that a Polish fellow
>>(Kostia Rozanoff) as well as a big German influence (after World War II)
>>had much to do with Dassault's sucess. Unfortunately it was more German
>>input than anything else. If you want to pick a French strength, you might
>>want to really skip (or goose step) over that one in the future.
>> I can hardly keep a straight face here when you wrote "tell me why they
>> have a pretty decent army?" The French have a decent army? You're going
>> to have to help me here. How far back should we go? The Gallic Wars?
>> Sorry, no winners on that ticket. The Hundred Years War? Nope, Not a big
>> sucess. Italian Wars? Pretty ugly. France goes 0 for 2 with Italy. And
>> Italy has not fielded a good team since Rome fell! The Thirty Years War?
>> France played left out, but got its ass kicked anyway. The Dutch War tied
>> as well as the War of Revolution. French and Indian War? Well I am not a
>> French speaker so no. War of Spanish Succession? Lost. American
>> Revolution? We won. France well, the British were still there. French
>> Revolution? If you count kicking your own ass as a win yes. But only if
>> you don't count the headless corpses left by Maximilien Robespierre and
>> the Terror. The Napoleonic Wars? If you don't count inventing horse meat
>> popsicles on the Russian retreat as a win then no, a big loss.
>> Franco-Prussian Wars? Lost. World War I? A tie game that was saved by
>> USA. World War II? Lost. Indochina? Ho Chi Minh got North Vietnam out of
>> the deal and France got to go home. The Algerian Rebellion? Another Loss.
>> I don't mean to be picky. We will say France has a great army. No one has
>> ever seen it, or knows where it is, but I'll trust you that it is there.
>> Not sure about this half of the country thing. I suspect you're not a big
>> history buff so I'll help you out. President Thomas Jefferson in 1803 did
>> purchase about 1/2 of the United States (what is now roughly 13 states)
>> from France in this deal called the Louisiana Purchase. Then Lewis and
>> Clark went on this big expedition. They don't mention much of this in
>> Canada do they? In short France did actually have half the country, and
>> then sold it to have enough money to fund an army to lose more wars. So
>> your point is what exactly?
>> Well the wine thing is really just an accident of geography. Grapes only
>> grow well in certain climates and soils. Britain is too cold. They make
>> beer instead from grain that grows well in their climate. Now if you said
>> France makes great beer that would really be something. That was part of
>> the reason for the 100 years war but we won't go into that now.
>> The wall is coming fast? Okay, based on all of the solid information
>> you've given so far I'll be on the look out for it.
>>
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>> "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> "Everywhere Man" <alarminstall@xxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de news:
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>>>>The rest of this country should learn to speak French because we've
>>>>just like the lazy frog bastards.
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>>> well if the french speaking poeple are such a bunch of lazy frog
>>> bastard's tell me why they are the only country that can send sattelite
>>> in orbit with better result thent the american..? tell be why they
>>> produce great airplane? tell me why they have a pretty decent army?
>>>
>>> if france would have 1/2 of the country you have,they would beat you
>>> just by farting after taking a good lunch of good wine and cheese..
>>>
>>> speaking od wine,why did they produce wine for the last 300 years that
>>> were thw best in the world?they were the one that developed the know how
>>> on wich your country trive to produce your wine...
>>>
>>> Stop being a damn stupid racist ass hole,your not that best in the world
>>> on all count,maybe you were said so,to help raise the spririt,for all
>>> your wars...but start looking over your shoulder,since Reagan you came
>>> from being the biggest money loner contry,to that one asking the most...
>>>
>>> be carefull the wall is comming fast...
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