Re: Wire prices

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

You don't watch Mythbusters? They did the myth about pissing on the 3rd
rail...couldn't get old Buster to get fried. The stream has to be continuous
to get fried.


"Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:45914d97$0$7662$4c368faf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
|I am far more worried about the urinal. Please hurry with your invention.
| The thought of accidental electro-cauterizing prostate and bladder surgery
| scares me.
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| "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| news:45913fbb$0$25776$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > I'm working on a device to ground the water coming out of the shower
| > faucet...better safe than sorry.
| >
| >
| > "alarman" <alarman2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > news:ol2kh.3431$sp7.2927@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | Funny you should mention that. That very thing happened to Mark
Leuck's
| > | uncle. The shock didn't kill him, but he fell and hit his head on a
| > Moose
| > | Z-1100 that happened to be nearby. Now if that box had been grounded,
| > | well.....who knows??
| > | js
| > |
| > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | news:45908bd8$0$25781$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > For ceiling fixtures like ceiling fans, just in case you grab onto a
| > fan
| > | > blade when you get out of the shower and have a ground wire tangled
| > around
| > | > your feet.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "alarman" <alarman2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | > news:mEBjh.168876$HO4.86294@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | Probably, but there are still a lot of the old ones out there.
| > | > |
| > | > | You're not grounding the box of course, it's just a terminal to
land
| > the
| > | > | ground wire, and maybe do some good in certain circumstances. I
| > haven't
| > | > seen
| > | > | in on the single gang boxes, but the round ones have it. Must be a
| > | > lighting
| > | > | fixture thing. I've seen that skinny little ground tail on the
| > fixture
| > | > break
| > | > | off, or even slip out of the wire nut.
| > | > |
| > | > | js
| > | > |
| > | > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | > | news:458ee1eb$0$25782$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > In which case grounding the box will still make no
sense...better
| > to
| > | > | > replace
| > | > | > the old device with a grounding lug...they cost under a buck for
| > the
| > | > cheap
| > | > | > ones... under 2 bucks for the good ones.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "alarman" <alarman2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:PBhjh.26617$uX4.8944@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | Maybe in case you have an older switch without a ground lug,
or
| > a
| > | > | > fixture
| > | > | > | with a broken or missing grounding tail. Redundancy?
| > | > | > | js
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
| > message
| > | > | > | news:458d9046$0$510$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | > You guys are missing the point. The device (switch/outlet)
is
| > | > already
| > | > | > | > grounded by the ground wire from the supply line. Unless,
they
| > use
| > | > | > very
| > | > | > | > different wire in Canada...why would you want to connect a
| > plastic
| > | > box
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > the ground??? The device is grounded, the box is plastic,
the
| > | > cover
| > | > | > plate
| > | > | > | > is
| > | > | > | > plastic...what exactly are you grounding ???
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "Doug" <not@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > news:jYcjh.1381$923.280@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | > |I imagine the purpose isn't to "ground" the box, but to try
| > to
| > | > ensure
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | ground is passed through to the device being mounted on
the
| > box.
| > | > The
| > | > | > | > ground
| > | > | > | > | lug appears to be tied to the device mounting screw
sockets,
| > any
| > | > | > device
| > | > | > | > | mounted to the box will be grounded. It may also be to try
| > to
| > | > ensure
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | ground continuity to devices further down the circuit, who
| > | > knows,
| > | > | > but
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > | > | quick google seems to confirm that it is a requirement of
| > the
| > | > | > Canadian
| > | > | > | > | Electrical Code.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | This is from a document on Carlon's website.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Canadian Applications: Per Canadian electric code, a
| > separate
| > | > | > bonding
| > | > | > | > | connection is required in nonmetallic electrical boxes.
| > Utilize
| > | > | > | > Grounding
| > | > | > | > | Lug (Fig. 11) and green Ground Screw provided with Yoke.
| > | > | > | > | http://www.carlon.com/Installation_Training/IT-IS125.pdf
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Doug
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
| > | > message
| > | > | > | > | news:458d50a5$0$500$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | > | > uh, ok...enlighten me how grounding a PLASTIC box (or
any
| > | > other
| > | > | > | > | > non-conducting object) will protect me (or) you from
being
| > | > zapped.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > | > news:o32jh.45752$kY5.484656@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | > | > | you never took time to understand why there are so
much
| > law
| > | > for
| > | > | > | > | > electrical
| > | > | > | > | > | wiring..
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | all of this is to protect you,and everyone else of
being
| > | > zapped
| > | > | > by
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > | > | > faulty
| > | > | > | > | > | electric device....
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a
écrit
| > | > dans
| > | > le
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| > | > | > | > | > de
| > | > | > | > | > | news: 458b7296$0$25782$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | > | > | >I saw I read, never see anything like that
| > before....and
| > I
| > | > | > still
| > | > | > | > think
| > | > | > | > | > it's
| > | > | > | > | > | > silly.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > | > | > news:MEIih.30937$kY5.154884@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
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http://tnblnx3.tnb.com/emAlbum/albums/Boxes%20and%20Covers/boxes_11_eng.pdf
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | go read
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
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| > | > | > | > | > | > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a
| > écrit
| > | > | > dans
| > | > | > le
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| > | > | > | > | > | > | news: 458b3ee0$0$3574$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > all that stuff is already grounded, to ground a
| > | > plastic
| > | > | > box
| > | > | > is
| > | > | > | > | > just
| > | > | > | > | > | > plain
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > silly.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > news:Panih.124026$_n2.1042548@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Olson is right,even if you use plastic box,you
| > need
| > | > to
| > | > | > put
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > | > | > ground
| > | > | > | > | > | > in
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | grounding lug...
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | you must be asking why, a so crazy thing..
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | its because,even if you use plastic box the
| > ground
| > | > wire
| > | > | > need
| > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | > | > connect
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | every metallic part of an electric system,that
| > is
| > | > not
| > | > | > | > carrying
| > | > | > | > | > | > power,so
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | metal on a switch,or an electric plug,or on a
| > metal
| > | > | > cover
| > | > | > on
| > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | > | > plastic
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | box, they all need to be grounded,its the damn
| > code
| > | > that
| > | > | > say
| > | > | > | > it
| > | > | > | > | > | > must,so
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > by
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | putting a ground lug,that connects to the hole
| > where
| > | > you
| > | > | > | > screw
| > | > | > | > | > your
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > device
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | or plate on the plastic box you respect the
| > code,the
| > | > | > ground
| > | > | > | > wire
| > | > | > | > | > is
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > there
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | protect your life,not to just help copper wire
| > | > company
| > | > | > sell
| > | > | > | > more
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > wire....But
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | if its your life,just yours,not any other,I
| > would
| > be
| > | > in
| > | > | > | > favour
| > | > | > | > | > of
| > | > | > | > | > | > not
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | putting any ground wire to any electrical
system
| > | > that
| > | > | > you
| > | > | > | > could
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > touch....
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | I you would have a minimum understanding of
any
| > | > | > electrical
| > | > | > | > code
| > | > | > | > | > you
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > would
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | know that...
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
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| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | "Robert L Bass" <robertbass1@xxxxxxxxxxx> a
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| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >> Grounding a plastic back box?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > It's another olsonism, like levitating
ladders
| > and
| > | > | > | > | > snap-rolling
| > | > | > | > | > | > 737's.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > He's got a million of them (they're all
lies,
| > of
| > | > | > course).
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >> Let me see, how did that song go?
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