Re: Wire prices

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

In which case grounding the box will still make no sense...better to replace
the old device with a grounding lug...they cost under a buck for the cheap
ones... under 2 bucks for the good ones.


"alarman" <alarman2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| Maybe in case you have an older switch without a ground lug, or a fixture
| with a broken or missing grounding tail. Redundancy?
| js
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| "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| news:458d9046$0$510$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > You guys are missing the point. The device (switch/outlet) is already
| > grounded by the ground wire from the supply line. Unless, they use very
| > different wire in Canada...why would you want to connect a plastic box
to
| > the ground??? The device is grounded, the box is plastic, the cover
plate
| > is
| > plastic...what exactly are you grounding ???
| >
| >
| > "Doug" <not@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > news:jYcjh.1381$923.280@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > |I imagine the purpose isn't to "ground" the box, but to try to ensure
the
| > | ground is passed through to the device being mounted on the box. The
| > ground
| > | lug appears to be tied to the device mounting screw sockets, any
device
| > | mounted to the box will be grounded. It may also be to try to ensure
the
| > | ground continuity to devices further down the circuit, who knows, but
a
| > | quick google seems to confirm that it is a requirement of the Canadian
| > | Electrical Code.
| > |
| > | This is from a document on Carlon's website.
| > |
| > | Canadian Applications: Per Canadian electric code, a separate bonding
| > | connection is required in nonmetallic electrical boxes. Utilize
| > Grounding
| > | Lug (Fig. 11) and green Ground Screw provided with Yoke.
| > | http://www.carlon.com/Installation_Training/IT-IS125.pdf
| > |
| > |
| > | Doug
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | news:458d50a5$0$500$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > uh, ok...enlighten me how grounding a PLASTIC box (or any other
| > | > non-conducting object) will protect me (or) you from being zapped.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | > news:o32jh.45752$kY5.484656@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | you never took time to understand why there are so much law for
| > | > electrical
| > | > | wiring..
| > | > |
| > | > | all of this is to protect you,and everyone else of being zapped by
a
| > | > faulty
| > | > | electric device....
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le
| > message
| > | > de
| > | > | news: 458b7296$0$25782$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | >I saw I read, never see anything like that before....and I still
| > think
| > | > it's
| > | > | > silly.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:MEIih.30937$kY5.154884@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | >
| >
http://tnblnx3.tnb.com/emAlbum/albums/Boxes%20and%20Covers/boxes_11_eng.pdf
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | go read
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans
le
| > | > message
| > | > | > de
| > | > | > | news: 458b3ee0$0$3574$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | > all that stuff is already grounded, to ground a plastic box
is
| > | > just
| > | > | > plain
| > | > | > | > silly.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > news:Panih.124026$_n2.1042548@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | > | Olson is right,even if you use plastic box,you need to put
a
| > | > ground
| > | > | > in
| > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | grounding lug...
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | you must be asking why, a so crazy thing..
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | its because,even if you use plastic box the ground wire
need
| > to
| > | > | > connect
| > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | every metallic part of an electric system,that is not
| > carrying
| > | > | > power,so
| > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | metal on a switch,or an electric plug,or on a metal cover
on
| > the
| > | > | > plastic
| > | > | > | > | box, they all need to be grounded,its the damn code that
say
| > it
| > | > | > must,so
| > | > | > | > by
| > | > | > | > | putting a ground lug,that connects to the hole where you
| > screw
| > | > your
| > | > | > | > device
| > | > | > | > | or plate on the plastic box you respect the code,the
ground
| > wire
| > | > is
| > | > | > | > there
| > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | protect your life,not to just help copper wire company
sell
| > more
| > | > | > | > wire....But
| > | > | > | > | if its your life,just yours,not any other,I would be in
| > favour
| > | > of
| > | > | > not
| > | > | > | > | putting any ground wire to any electrical system that you
| > could
| > | > | > | > touch....
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | I you would have a minimum understanding of any electrical
| > code
| > | > you
| > | > | > | > would
| > | > | > | > | know that...
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | "Robert L Bass" <robertbass1@xxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le
| > | > message
| > | > de
| > | > | > | > news:
| > | > | > | > | 8fadnbR7LuvEdRTYnZ2dnUVZ_r-onZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | > | >> Grounding a plastic back box?
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > It's another olsonism, like levitating ladders and
| > | > snap-rolling
| > | > | > 737's.
| > | > | > | > | > He's got a million of them (they're all lies, of
course).
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >> Let me see, how did that song go?
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > O-l-s-o-n....
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