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Re: Free estimates?
> If that is the case than you do agree
> that you are selling and consulting,
> within the State of Florida...
Not according to the definition which the state legislature wrote into the law.
> But, because you don't go to the clients
> home, your activities of selling and
> consulting, even though by telephone,
> are exempt from licensure. Is that
> correct?
There's no way to answer that question as phrased. The simple fact is that the state of Florida does not have any interest in
licensing people who only sell alarms by phone, Internet or mail order, as well as systems or components sold in a brick and mortar
store. That is clear enough in the law. If they were to change it, they would have to license every salesman working at Radio
Shack, Home Depot, Lowes and about 20,000 hardware store employees all over the state.
There's an up side to this from your point of view. If they were to license all of those folks you'd have more comperition, making
it harder for you to rip your customers off.
> I really hope you honestly anwser at
> least this one question.
I really hope you become honest someday.
>> You've been told this countless times
>> so I must assume the question (like
>> everything else you post) is
>> disingenuous.
>
> You have a propensity to try and BS
> the people in this group that are not
> from Florida...
Um, no. You're confusing me with yourself. We both know full well that I'm in full compliance with Florida. If I were not, your
pal, Mugford and his accomplaces would have shut me down years ago. They lost because my business is fully compliant with the law.
Now you and Mugford, unwilling to admit defeat, keep implying that there's some law being broken here. It won't fly though. We
both know you and he together haven't an honest bone in your collective, repugnant corpses.
> I don't try to play in your sandbox...
I'm not playing and you would look really stupid in a sandbox.
> you shouldn't try to play in mine. I
> strongly suggest you take your own
> advice and read the statute again.
Been there. Done that. You were wrong then and you're still wrong now, but of course you already know that. You're not interested
in the truth. You never were.
> As you said, "It is online for anyone
> to read". I told you on several occassions
> that I would not do your homework for
> you...
Do your own homework, moron.
> But, I guess because it is the holiday
> season and I am in a good mood, I'll
> give you a gift. I told you that some
> of your gray area activity will and have
> been corrected since your friendly
> DBPR investigator payed you a visit...
There is no such thing as a gray area under the law. Activity is legal or illegal. Mine happens to be legal. I can't speak for
what you do to your vict... er, customers though.
> The Governor signed the legislation
> in June and on July 1st, 2006 the law
> changed. In certain circles it was dubbed
> the "Bass Bill"...
Oh, bullshit!
> Evidently you haven't read the statute
> recently. The word "on-site" was dropped
> from the statute pertaining to sales. If the
> State has not updated the website as of
> yet, it doesn't mean the law is not in effect...
Uh-huh, sure. If there were any truth to that Mugford and his cohorts would have been on me like maggots on Olson.
> you will find that your license number
> needs to be listed on your website...
That only applies to companies whose work is subject to licensing. Mine is not so there's no license and no requirement to post
one. Of course, you know that too, but you lie so there's no reason to expect you'd be honest now.
> I'll let you explain the meaning of "sales"
> and "consulting", regardless of the medium,
> to the next investigator...
Sure thing. I'll let you explain the meaning of "filing a false complaint" to my attorney. You say you want to fight? OK, but you
might want to take note of what happened to a certain jackass from Waco. He found out the hard way that I hit back much harder if
sufficiently provoked.
> I will guarantee that the next one will be a
> little more informed about the statute by the
> new State Attorney, who by the way, is
> known for seeing things as black and white...
Yes, yes, yes. And I'll let you deal with my attorney, you useless piece of rhinocerous pizzle (apologies to Eddie Murphy:)).
> You need to play nice Robert and stop
> the insults and I mean across the board...
Or what? You'll file a complaint. I can't wait for your reply. Let's see if this is nice enough for your taste. Drop dead and on
the way down hit your head. You're a useless, lying sack of jiminex with less morals than a can full of olson.
> Oh, just in case you still don't understand,
> even though he has gotten into your head,
> Mugford and the Electrical Contractors Licensing
> Board has absolutely nothing to do with
> unlicensed contractor activity, so chasing
> that vehicle is a waste of your time.
I never said he did. I stated, quite correctly, that Mugford got a pal of his to file a false complaint based in part on direct
quotes from Mugford himself. The state inspector came to my place and asked about my business. I showed him what I do and then
showed him how to parse Mugford's childish online rants from this newsgroup. He was shocked at Mugford's assinine public display of
bias. He also saw that much of the wording of the false complaint quoted Mugford and a few of his jackass pals from this newsgroup.
The inspector told me on the spot that in his opinion the com[plaint was baseless and biased. He also said that he would pass the
information on to the SA with a recommendation to dismiss. That is precisely what the SA did. There was no objection or dissent
from anyone in the department -- Mugford made that up. Like most of what he has posted, it was a lie.
> Have a Merry Christmas
You, too.
> I know you're mistaken.
I don't believe you are mistaken. Apparently, you're a liar. Stick that in your sandbox.
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