Re: Free estimates?

["Bob Worthy" <securinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Robert L Bass" failed to read so he wrote in a message

> > I've often wondered how it is you can
> > sell a "full system" to someone that
> > doesn't know anything about alarms
> > without their first consulting you on
> > what they need...
>
> I've often wondered how you could spend years trying to find a way to get
the state of Florida to listen to your whining yet you
> still don't get it.  The law is quite clear and it's available online for
anyone to read.
>
> > Are sales agents not required to be
> > licensed?
>
> For the hundred and fifty seventh time, no.  If the >salesman does not go
to the cusatomer's >premises to make the sale no license i
> required.

If that is the case than you do agree that you are selling and consulting,
within the State of Florida. But, because you don't go to the clients home,
your activities of selling and consulting, even though by telephone, are
exempt from licensure. Is that correct? I really hope you honestly anwser at
least this one question.

>You've been told this countless times so I must >assume the question (like
everything else you >post) is disingenuous.

You have a propensity to try and BS the people in this group that are not
from Florida. I don't try to play in your sandbox, you shouldn't try to play
in mine. I strongly suggest you take your own advice and read the statute
again. As you said, "It is online for anyone to read". I told you on several
occassions that I would not do your homework for you. But, I guess because
it is the holiday season and I am in a good mood, I'll give you a gift. I
told you that some of your gray area activity will and have been corrected
since your friendly DBPR investigator payed you a visit. The Governor signed
the legislation in June and on July 1st, 2006 the law changed. In certain
circles it was dubbed the "Bass Bill". Evidently you haven't read the
statute recently. The word "on-site" was dropped from the statute pertaining
to sales. If the State has not updated the website as of yet, it doesn't
mean the law is not in effect. If you wish, I will get you the SB and
companion HB numbers that were passed. That is why these telemarketing
companies, selling security systems, have all but disappeared unless they
are actually the licensed company. If you really read the whole thing, which
I know you haven't because you don't know what the rest of it is or what the
other pertaining statutes are (one gift per year only), you will find that
your license number needs to be listed on your website (don't seem to see
one) because you are consulting and selling and that requires a license
:o]]]]]]]]]] Ooopps! Guess you didn't read far enough did ya! I'll let you
explain the meaning of "sales" and "consulting", regardless of the medium,
to the next investigator. I will guarantee that the next one will be a
little more informed about the statute by the new State Attorney, who by the
way, is known for seeing things as black and white and does not fall for
gray. So...how do I program this again?
GO....AHEAD...AND.....MAKE....MY...DAY!
You need to play nice Robert and stop the insults and I mean across the
board. Oh, just in case you still don't understand, even though he has
gotten into your head, Mugford and the Electrical Contractors Licensing
Board has absolutely nothing to do with unlicensed contractor activity, so
chasing that vehicle is a waste of your time.

Have a Merry Christmas

> > Do you not "consult" with your clients
> > over the phone (I mean now that you
> > have a troll free number)?
>
> It's always been troll free except for the time you called me.  There's no
license requirement for phone consultation, email
> discussion, online sales, etc.  You already know this though.

I know you're mistaken.