Re: More VOIP/Digital Voice

["tourman" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Basically right on all counts ! But at the moment, the industry
(translation, you and I) still has to deal with VoIP in some workable
fashion. It's coming on like gangbusters and it's not going away ! Hit
and miss is no real solution as you say; however, you try telling that
to end users who can't (or more likely won't) see the problems as real.

I am hoping services such as www.lobenninc.com and others like that
will be able to solve the problem over the longer term. But if you
can't convince a client to leave a bloody Bell line in for the little
it costs each month, I doubt they'll spring for the $200 or so for the
on site TCPIP unit either. These units will have to be a LOT less
expensive than they are currently if clients are to seriously consider
them.  We either try to make it work with all the safeguards we can
muster (ie: daily tests, proper hookup procedures, UPS on all
vulnerable connection devices. limitations of liability, etc) or we
walk away from half a million customers. Back up options such as
Uplink, Tel-a-Link radio etc are certainly viable, but still too costly
for some segments of the market (ie: residential).

I realize I'm playing the devils advocate here, but it's not far off
the reality of the situation ! Might be, we're seeing another offshoot
of the cheapening of the security market by the mass marketers...no one
feels security is worth much.

As I see it, for the next while anyway, the industry is " between a
rock and a hard place"...

RHC

Doug wrote:
> Its VoIP not AoIP, the safest thing to do is to assume that  VoIP and
> digital communicators are not going to work reliably together at the present
> time and probably not in the future either and use an alternative means of
> communications. I think that its a disservice to the customer and a
> potential liability to the alarmco to try different formats until you find
> one that works today, yet may stop tomorrow if and when the VoIP providers
> make changes to their service in order to try to improve the voice
> transmission.
>
> If , and its a big if, VoIP and alarms systems are to co-exist it will have
> to come from the alarm industry designing a product that will work with
> VoIP, not the other way around, and it seems unlikley that its worth the
> time and effort for a manufacturer to try and hit the every changing target
> of VoIP, its much more likely that TCP/IP will be built in to new alarm
> panels and very inexpensive TCP/IP modules will become available for
> existing panels.
>
>
> Doug
>
> --
>
> "tourman" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1165156535.786058.313830@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Mark, I have one customer who has 4/2 and it works OK. All the six
> > others, are using SIA or Contact ID. I had two others go back to Bell
> > because the VoIP connection itself was poor...nothing to do with the
> > alarm.
> >
> > I guess this just goes to show how flakey this whole alarms on VoIP
> > business is when those in the business can't even say between
> > themselves what works and what doesn't.....
> >
> > RHC
> >
> >>
> >> "Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:KsOdnVgxuPUovu_YnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> > Strange, its been my experience SIA is the most likely to have problems
> >> > followed by CID, 4/2 is the most likely to work
> >> >
> >> >
> >