Re: Ranger American yahoos.

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

phx here....... I just checked one of their prewires...blow & go...and big
clunky contacts on the windows they do do...and cheep 2 conductor for
windows that the do do.



"thesatguy" <thesatguy1@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| houston
| "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| news:44e9bdec$0$506$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > Thanks!
| > Looks like they offer more where you are. Where are you? If you don't
| > wanna
| > post that just be general.
| >
| > Thanks,
| > Rob
| >
| > "thesatguy" <thesatguy1@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > news:2RcGg.12673$ok5.10821@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | In my area they only use that huge dsc home wiring unit and it always
| > goes
| > | in the master bdrm closet.
| > |
| > | They always wire every opening,
| > | There is always a wire in the living room wall for a motion.
| > | They do wire the catv outlets, they do wire a cat5 jack in most every
| > room
| > | and they homerun everything back to the home wiring unit.
| > |
| > | Often times they run wires for additional speakers in the living rm
| > ceiling.
| > |
| > | They wire all the telephone jacks.
| > | They only use the dsc 1555's created for them.so you can't change the
| > | default adt installer code.  They are adt's biggest dealer.
| > |
| > | Usually the jobs are done right and well but that will vary by area.
| > |
| > | They often do upgrade their systems in new homes but its always a
| > 'package'
| > | type upgrade.
| > |
| > | The basic pack includes the prewire and trim out.
| > | Upgrade can include:
| > | The telco wiring & jacks.
| > | The catv wiring & jacks.
| > | The cat5 wiring & jacks.
| > | Two satellite dish drops is an upgrade.- not included in catv wiring &
| > | jacks.
| > | The additional ceiling speakers.
| > | I have seen them add an additional motion sensor in front entry if
there
| > is
| > | a lot of large glass openings.
| > | Never seen them install a glass break although they do offer it as an
| > | option.
| > |
| > | I see their sales van full salesmen at least once a week going to
visit
| > in
| > | my area.
| > |
| > | They contact home buyers as soon as builder tells them somebody has
| > | purchased the home being built and they offer all the other wiring
| > options.
| > |
| > | In some subdivisions the builder pays for the whole shebang for each
| > home
| > | and just adds it into the price but many times RA meets with each
client
| > | while construction is going on and upsells changes.  Often they call
| > | customers every week to remind them they are taking care of stuff even
| > | though customers tell them they don't want their service.  They are
real
| > | pests but of course this is why they are so successful.
| > |
| > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | news:44e905a3$0$10300$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > An long time client of mine is buying a new home. The builder won't
| > let
| > us
| > | > wire it, and they don't offer a prewire only. So my client said fine
| > I'll
| > | > buy the system and have my company (us) rip it out when I move in.
| > What
| > am
| > | > I
| > | > getting for my money? No response. What kind of alarm and what
| > | > devices/keypads. We don't know, you'll have to call the alarm
company.
| > He
| > | > does, about 10 times. Finally, he gets hold of someone in Florida or
| > | > somewhere...What am I getting in my new home with the security
system
| > | > Ranger
| > | > Amercian is installing. We don't know..but's it's full upgradable.
| > What
| > do
| > | > you mean, you don't know what you are installing in my home? We'll
| > have
| > a
| > | > rep call you. The rep calls and HE DOESN'T KNOW EITHER! My client
| > doesn't
| > | > know and can't find out if; they are doing all openings (up and
down),
| > how
| > | > many keypads, motions...etc..nada zilch.
| > | >
| > | > But get this; they will not upgrade. He wants smokes, and CO
detector,
| > | > extra
| > | > motions, glassbreaks in every lower level room (the way I would do
| > | > it)...they won't do it and they won't prewire for them either!!!
| > | >
| > | > What morons. Just shows you they are interested in the money only,
not
| > | > what
| > | > the client needs or wants.
| > | >
| > | > Looks like they are affliated with ADT too.
| > | >
| > | > Portion of client's email to me:
| > | >
| > | >  a.. The panel and keypad that they will supply are fully capable of
| > | > handling any upgrade package that we wish (which I don't believe).
| > | >  b.. They have no product information on the equipment that they
use,
| > nor
| > | > can they advise me on how to obtain such information.
| > | >  c.. Most disturbingly, she also tells me that XXXXX will not allow
| > them
| > | > to
| > | > prewire for any upgrades aside from a second keypad at the master
| > bedroom.
| > | > This means that any integration of smoke detectors, CO detectors,
| > glass
| > | > break sensors, upstairs perimeter switches on windows, garage
sensors,
| > or
| > | > any other items would have to be handled as after-market options
| > between
| > | > the
| > | > home-owner and the security company.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Jim Rojas" <jrojas@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | > news:927Gg.4260$JO5.334@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | Here in Tampa they hire non english speaking imigrants, and pay
them
| > | > about
| > | > | $7 and hour with no benefits. Many of them also drive their own
| > personal
| > | > | vehicles.
| > | > |
| > | > | Jim Rojas
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| > | > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | > | news:44e8f6f4$0$3576$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > One word; Sheesh!
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