Re: Ranger American yahoos.

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks!
Looks like they offer more where you are. Where are you? If you don't wanna
post that just be general.

Thanks,
Rob

"thesatguy" <thesatguy1@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| In my area they only use that huge dsc home wiring unit and it always goes
| in the master bdrm closet.
|
| They always wire every opening,
| There is always a wire in the living room wall for a motion.
| They do wire the catv outlets, they do wire a cat5 jack in most every room
| and they homerun everything back to the home wiring unit.
|
| Often times they run wires for additional speakers in the living rm
ceiling.
|
| They wire all the telephone jacks.
| They only use the dsc 1555's created for them.so you can't change the
| default adt installer code.  They are adt's biggest dealer.
|
| Usually the jobs are done right and well but that will vary by area.
|
| They often do upgrade their systems in new homes but its always a
'package'
| type upgrade.
|
| The basic pack includes the prewire and trim out.
| Upgrade can include:
| The telco wiring & jacks.
| The catv wiring & jacks.
| The cat5 wiring & jacks.
| Two satellite dish drops is an upgrade.- not included in catv wiring &
| jacks.
| The additional ceiling speakers.
| I have seen them add an additional motion sensor in front entry if there
is
| a lot of large glass openings.
| Never seen them install a glass break although they do offer it as an
| option.
|
| I see their sales van full salesmen at least once a week going to visit in
| my area.
|
| They contact home buyers as soon as builder tells them somebody has
| purchased the home being built and they offer all the other wiring
options.
|
| In some subdivisions the builder pays for the whole shebang for each home
| and just adds it into the price but many times RA meets with each client
| while construction is going on and upsells changes.  Often they call
| customers every week to remind them they are taking care of stuff even
| though customers tell them they don't want their service.  They are real
| pests but of course this is why they are so successful.
|
| "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| news:44e905a3$0$10300$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > An long time client of mine is buying a new home. The builder won't let
us
| > wire it, and they don't offer a prewire only. So my client said fine
I'll
| > buy the system and have my company (us) rip it out when I move in. What
am
| > I
| > getting for my money? No response. What kind of alarm and what
| > devices/keypads. We don't know, you'll have to call the alarm company.
He
| > does, about 10 times. Finally, he gets hold of someone in Florida or
| > somewhere...What am I getting in my new home with the security system
| > Ranger
| > Amercian is installing. We don't know..but's it's full upgradable. What
do
| > you mean, you don't know what you are installing in my home? We'll have
a
| > rep call you. The rep calls and HE DOESN'T KNOW EITHER! My client
doesn't
| > know and can't find out if; they are doing all openings (up and down),
how
| > many keypads, motions...etc..nada zilch.
| >
| > But get this; they will not upgrade. He wants smokes, and CO detector,
| > extra
| > motions, glassbreaks in every lower level room (the way I would do
| > it)...they won't do it and they won't prewire for them either!!!
| >
| > What morons. Just shows you they are interested in the money only, not
| > what
| > the client needs or wants.
| >
| > Looks like they are affliated with ADT too.
| >
| > Portion of client's email to me:
| >
| >  a.. The panel and keypad that they will supply are fully capable of
| > handling any upgrade package that we wish (which I don't believe).
| >  b.. They have no product information on the equipment that they use,
nor
| > can they advise me on how to obtain such information.
| >  c.. Most disturbingly, she also tells me that XXXXX will not allow them
| > to
| > prewire for any upgrades aside from a second keypad at the master
bedroom.
| > This means that any integration of smoke detectors, CO detectors, glass
| > break sensors, upstairs perimeter switches on windows, garage sensors,
or
| > any other items would have to be handled as after-market options between
| > the
| > home-owner and the security company.
| >
| >
| > "Jim Rojas" <jrojas@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > news:927Gg.4260$JO5.334@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | Here in Tampa they hire non english speaking imigrants, and pay them
| > about
| > | $7 and hour with no benefits. Many of them also drive their own
personal
| > | vehicles.
| > |
| > | Jim Rojas
| > |
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| > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | news:44e8f6f4$0$3576$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > One word; Sheesh!
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