Re: Ranger American yahoos.

["thesatguy" <thesatguy1@xxxxxxx>]

houston
"Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Thanks!
> Looks like they offer more where you are. Where are you? If you don't
> wanna
> post that just be general.
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
>
> "thesatguy" <thesatguy1@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:2RcGg.12673$ok5.10821@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | In my area they only use that huge dsc home wiring unit and it always
> goes
> | in the master bdrm closet.
> |
> | They always wire every opening,
> | There is always a wire in the living room wall for a motion.
> | They do wire the catv outlets, they do wire a cat5 jack in most every
> room
> | and they homerun everything back to the home wiring unit.
> |
> | Often times they run wires for additional speakers in the living rm
> ceiling.
> |
> | They wire all the telephone jacks.
> | They only use the dsc 1555's created for them.so you can't change the
> | default adt installer code.  They are adt's biggest dealer.
> |
> | Usually the jobs are done right and well but that will vary by area.
> |
> | They often do upgrade their systems in new homes but its always a
> 'package'
> | type upgrade.
> |
> | The basic pack includes the prewire and trim out.
> | Upgrade can include:
> | The telco wiring & jacks.
> | The catv wiring & jacks.
> | The cat5 wiring & jacks.
> | Two satellite dish drops is an upgrade.- not included in catv wiring &
> | jacks.
> | The additional ceiling speakers.
> | I have seen them add an additional motion sensor in front entry if there
> is
> | a lot of large glass openings.
> | Never seen them install a glass break although they do offer it as an
> | option.
> |
> | I see their sales van full salesmen at least once a week going to visit
> in
> | my area.
> |
> | They contact home buyers as soon as builder tells them somebody has
> | purchased the home being built and they offer all the other wiring
> options.
> |
> | In some subdivisions the builder pays for the whole shebang for each
> home
> | and just adds it into the price but many times RA meets with each client
> | while construction is going on and upsells changes.  Often they call
> | customers every week to remind them they are taking care of stuff even
> | though customers tell them they don't want their service.  They are real
> | pests but of course this is why they are so successful.
> |
> | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | news:44e905a3$0$10300$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > An long time client of mine is buying a new home. The builder won't
> let
> us
> | > wire it, and they don't offer a prewire only. So my client said fine
> I'll
> | > buy the system and have my company (us) rip it out when I move in.
> What
> am
> | > I
> | > getting for my money? No response. What kind of alarm and what
> | > devices/keypads. We don't know, you'll have to call the alarm company.
> He
> | > does, about 10 times. Finally, he gets hold of someone in Florida or
> | > somewhere...What am I getting in my new home with the security system
> | > Ranger
> | > Amercian is installing. We don't know..but's it's full upgradable.
> What
> do
> | > you mean, you don't know what you are installing in my home? We'll
> have
> a
> | > rep call you. The rep calls and HE DOESN'T KNOW EITHER! My client
> doesn't
> | > know and can't find out if; they are doing all openings (up and down),
> how
> | > many keypads, motions...etc..nada zilch.
> | >
> | > But get this; they will not upgrade. He wants smokes, and CO detector,
> | > extra
> | > motions, glassbreaks in every lower level room (the way I would do
> | > it)...they won't do it and they won't prewire for them either!!!
> | >
> | > What morons. Just shows you they are interested in the money only, not
> | > what
> | > the client needs or wants.
> | >
> | > Looks like they are affliated with ADT too.
> | >
> | > Portion of client's email to me:
> | >
> | >  a.. The panel and keypad that they will supply are fully capable of
> | > handling any upgrade package that we wish (which I don't believe).
> | >  b.. They have no product information on the equipment that they use,
> nor
> | > can they advise me on how to obtain such information.
> | >  c.. Most disturbingly, she also tells me that XXXXX will not allow
> them
> | > to
> | > prewire for any upgrades aside from a second keypad at the master
> bedroom.
> | > This means that any integration of smoke detectors, CO detectors,
> glass
> | > break sensors, upstairs perimeter switches on windows, garage sensors,
> or
> | > any other items would have to be handled as after-market options
> between
> | > the
> | > home-owner and the security company.
> | >
> | >
> | > "Jim Rojas" <jrojas@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | > news:927Gg.4260$JO5.334@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > | Here in Tampa they hire non english speaking imigrants, and pay them
> | > about
> | > | $7 and hour with no benefits. Many of them also drive their own
> personal
> | > | vehicles.
> | > |
> | > | Jim Rojas
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> | > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | > | news:44e8f6f4$0$3576$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > | > One word; Sheesh!
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