Re: Ranger American yahoos.

["thesatguy" <thesatguy1@xxxxxxx>]

In my area they only use that huge dsc home wiring unit and it always goes
in the master bdrm closet.

They always wire every opening,
There is always a wire in the living room wall for a motion.
They do wire the catv outlets, they do wire a cat5 jack in most every room
and they homerun everything back to the home wiring unit.

Often times they run wires for additional speakers in the living rm ceiling.

They wire all the telephone jacks.
They only use the dsc 1555's created for them.so you can't change the
default adt installer code.  They are adt's biggest dealer.

Usually the jobs are done right and well but that will vary by area.

They often do upgrade their systems in new homes but its always a 'package'
type upgrade.

The basic pack includes the prewire and trim out.
Upgrade can include:
The telco wiring & jacks.
The catv wiring & jacks.
The cat5 wiring & jacks.
Two satellite dish drops is an upgrade.- not included in catv wiring &
jacks.
The additional ceiling speakers.
I have seen them add an additional motion sensor in front entry if there is
a lot of large glass openings.
Never seen them install a glass break although they do offer it as an
option.

I see their sales van full salesmen at least once a week going to visit in
my area.

They contact home buyers as soon as builder tells them somebody has
purchased the home being built and they offer all the other wiring options.

In some subdivisions the builder pays for the whole shebang for each home
and just adds it into the price but many times RA meets with each client
while construction is going on and upsells changes.  Often they call
customers every week to remind them they are taking care of stuff even
though customers tell them they don't want their service.  They are real
pests but of course this is why they are so successful.

"Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:44e905a3$0$10300$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> An long time client of mine is buying a new home. The builder won't let us
> wire it, and they don't offer a prewire only. So my client said fine I'll
> buy the system and have my company (us) rip it out when I move in. What am
> I
> getting for my money? No response. What kind of alarm and what
> devices/keypads. We don't know, you'll have to call the alarm company. He
> does, about 10 times. Finally, he gets hold of someone in Florida or
> somewhere...What am I getting in my new home with the security system
> Ranger
> Amercian is installing. We don't know..but's it's full upgradable. What do
> you mean, you don't know what you are installing in my home? We'll have a
> rep call you. The rep calls and HE DOESN'T KNOW EITHER! My client doesn't
> know and can't find out if; they are doing all openings (up and down), how
> many keypads, motions...etc..nada zilch.
>
> But get this; they will not upgrade. He wants smokes, and CO detector,
> extra
> motions, glassbreaks in every lower level room (the way I would do
> it)...they won't do it and they won't prewire for them either!!!
>
> What morons. Just shows you they are interested in the money only, not
> what
> the client needs or wants.
>
> Looks like they are affliated with ADT too.
>
> Portion of client's email to me:
>
>  a.. The panel and keypad that they will supply are fully capable of
> handling any upgrade package that we wish (which I don't believe).
>  b.. They have no product information on the equipment that they use, nor
> can they advise me on how to obtain such information.
>  c.. Most disturbingly, she also tells me that XXXXX will not allow them
> to
> prewire for any upgrades aside from a second keypad at the master bedroom.
> This means that any integration of smoke detectors, CO detectors, glass
> break sensors, upstairs perimeter switches on windows, garage sensors, or
> any other items would have to be handled as after-market options between
> the
> home-owner and the security company.
>
>
> "Jim Rojas" <jrojas@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:927Gg.4260$JO5.334@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | Here in Tampa they hire non english speaking imigrants, and pay them
> about
> | $7 and hour with no benefits. Many of them also drive their own personal
> | vehicles.
> |
> | Jim Rojas
> |
> |
> | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | news:44e8f6f4$0$3576$815e3792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > One word; Sheesh!
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