Re: Silent Knight Fire Panels

[Mike Sokoly <secure15@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

>>
>> You seem like a nice guy who wants to do a job the right way.  Why
>> would you want to use a communicator as a fire panel?
It can be used as a standalone for Sprinkler Applications
   That's right,
>> the 5104B is a 6 channel communicator.
Yes and it is fully supervised and is UL 874 listed as Stand-alone or a
Slave DACT
   It doesn't have any controls.
Wrong- 5230 gives FULL annunciation
>> God help you if you want to hook up signals to it.
It has 1 NAC output
   How does the fire
>> department or the building personnel tell which zone is in alarm?
Uh, What does "ANNUNCIATOR" mean?

>> Wait for the central station to call?
Yep, its a "COMMUNICATOR"
  The keypad is ok for
>> programming but almost useless as an annunicator/control.
Wrong again- Raed the MAnual
   We use the
>> 5104B to monitor fire panels.
OK Itrs listed for that use
   There is a very good reason Silent
>> Knight's own web site doesn't list it under conventional fire panels.
>> They list it as a Fire Alarm Communicator.
Semantics
   That is what it should be
>> used for.
In whose opinion, YOURS?
>>
>> Thanks for letting me vent.  I have seen too many 5104's in warehouses
>> and such, monitoring half a dozen waterflows,
NFPA says 5 max per Zone
  tampers, low temps,
Supervisory - I think the Manual says SUPERVISORY
Spec sheet also provides a "STANDALONE" waterflow Block diagram- SOOO
Bob IMHO if u want to monitor a Sprinkler System  as Slave to a FACP OR
use 5104 as STANDALONE with thw 5320 Annunciator - unless the AHJ
objects - its afine panel contrary to Breslins "OPINION"
Mike S

>> on 1 or 2 zones.
>>


>>
> Excuse Me Breslin,
> But the 5104 DOES have the capacity for 1 supervised or nonsupervised
> Notification circuit on terminals 21 and 22 at 12VDC.
> Mike S

Bob,
Go to SK's website and download the pdf for 5104.