Re: Commercial Alarm - help

["Russell Brill" <russwbrill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

That's what I was thinking, Burg alarms eat up their downtime... Downtime =
LOST Productivity............ Hmmm, or maybe if they quit responding to
alarms, the crime rate will take a double digit dive... You know, because
they'll have soooo much more time to fight real crime........ :-))

"Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:_dtbf.19$I06.281@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> eatin' donuts...
> they certainly don't doo much in the way of investigating actuals,
> robberies
> or fraud around these parts.
>
>
>
> "Russell Brill" <russwbrill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:TCqbf.410$Id6.225@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | Jack,
> |
> | I'm curious, what would all of these cops be doing if they weren't
> | responding to Burg alarms??? Remember, lots of tax payers own
> alarms........
> | Russ
> |
> | "Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | news:j7-dnQG0W-PsdvDenZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | > news:913c0494b0187f736b0f30d795eaaaeb@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> | >> Jackcsg said:
> | >>
> | >> >Here's how simple the calculation is: The Police are notified to
> respond
> | > to
> | >> >a burglar alarm going off at xyz residence. Police arrive, find no
> sign
> | > of a
> | >> >break-in at the premise. This is logged as a "False Alarm". This
> | > information
> | >> >is collected all Year long. At the end of the year, they compare the
> | > actual
> | >> >calls for response, with ACTUAL crimes. Response vs. Crime.
> | >> >
> | >> >100% Response
> | >> >99% False Alarm
> | >> >1% Valid Crime
> | >> >
> | >> >If I'm wrong, show me a report from a responding authority having
> | >> >jurisdiction that states otherwise. "SHOW ME"
> | >>
> | >> Yes, that's exactly my point.  The police are using an unfair
> statistic,
> | >> and they don't understand why it's unfair.
> | >
> | > Unfair statistics? Your point? Your point is dilusional.
> | >
> | >> Judging alarm companies by the total number of false alarms they
> create:
> | >> that's fair.
> | >
> | > So what a false alarm index? Where do you suppose this data would come
> | > from?
> | > Alarm companies? You just said that would be unfair.
> | >
> | >> Judging alarm companies by the average number of false alarms each
> system
> | >> causes:  that's even more fair.
> | >
> | > That's what you would think. Unfortunately alarm companies don't
> follow
> | > through with the result.
> | > Instead AHJ's do.
> | >
> | >>
> | >> Judging alarm companies by the ratio of false alarms to actual
> | >> burglaries:
> | >> that's complete bullshit.  Alarm companies have no control over how
> many
> | >> burglary attempts there are.  If all the burglars decided to take the
> | >> next
> | >> month off, the false alarm rate would be 100%.  If the burglars
> decide
> to
> | >> work extra hard and commit more crimes, the false alarm rate would
> | > actually
> | >> drop.   Would the lower percentage mean that alarms are working
> better?
> | > Of
> | >> course not.
> | >
> | > Look, again...put aside your personal feelings. No body is saying the
> | > industry is not effective, nor that alarms aren't either. You're side
> | > stepping the information, just like the industry. Some of us just want
> to
> | > see it more, or most effective. Stop focusing on what you think works,
> and
> | > realize there is a circular pattern here. Realize for every action,
> there
> | > is
> | > a reaction. For every reactive response, there may be a proactive
> | > initiative. Think Man!
> | >
> | >>
> | >> Alarm systems are electronic devices that have a certain failure
> rate,
> | > just
> | >> like any other piece of electronic equipment, and that failure rate
> is
> | >> not
> | >> affected by the number of burglaries that are attempted.  This is
> just
> | > like
> | >> fire alarms.  The number of false fire alarms has nothing to do with
> the
> | >> number of fires.  I'll bet you'd find the percentage of fire alarms
> that
> | >> are false is also in the high nineties, simply because there are more
> and
> | >> more fire alarm systems and no corresponding increase in the number
> of
> | >> fires.
> | >
> | > These numbers aren't based on comparisons. That's how the Politicians
> and
> | > idiots, use this information.
> | > It's a simple fact of economic's, man-hours vs. tax dollars. Alarm
> | > installers/dealers aren't paid by tax dollars, responding authorities
> are.
> | > Think.
> | >
> | >> Trying to cut that false alarm percentage is a game the alarm
> companies
> | > can
> | >> never win.
> | >
> | > I disagree. Finding the $9 answer for alarm companies will never
> happen.
> | > It's going to be tough because the industry is geared towards being
> | > competitive with one another.
> | > The industry is too focused on RMR. Lost was the value that alarm
> systems
> | > could have, or should have provided. It's not everywhere though. Some,
> the
> | > few, do make, or try to make a difference in the industry. Some of
> those
> | > guys are right here.
> | >
> | >
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