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Re: Commercial Alarm - help



eatin' donuts...
they certainly don't doo much in the way of investigating actuals, robberies
or fraud around these parts.



"Russell Brill" <russwbrill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| Jack,
|
| I'm curious, what would all of these cops be doing if they weren't
| responding to Burg alarms??? Remember, lots of tax payers own
alarms........
| Russ
|
| "Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| news:j7-dnQG0W-PsdvDenZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > news:913c0494b0187f736b0f30d795eaaaeb@xxxxxxxxxxxx
| >> Jackcsg said:
| >>
| >> >Here's how simple the calculation is: The Police are notified to
respond
| > to
| >> >a burglar alarm going off at xyz residence. Police arrive, find no
sign
| > of a
| >> >break-in at the premise. This is logged as a "False Alarm". This
| > information
| >> >is collected all Year long. At the end of the year, they compare the
| > actual
| >> >calls for response, with ACTUAL crimes. Response vs. Crime.
| >> >
| >> >100% Response
| >> >99% False Alarm
| >> >1% Valid Crime
| >> >
| >> >If I'm wrong, show me a report from a responding authority having
| >> >jurisdiction that states otherwise. "SHOW ME"
| >>
| >> Yes, that's exactly my point.  The police are using an unfair
statistic,
| >> and they don't understand why it's unfair.
| >
| > Unfair statistics? Your point? Your point is dilusional.
| >
| >> Judging alarm companies by the total number of false alarms they
create:
| >> that's fair.
| >
| > So what a false alarm index? Where do you suppose this data would come
| > from?
| > Alarm companies? You just said that would be unfair.
| >
| >> Judging alarm companies by the average number of false alarms each
system
| >> causes:  that's even more fair.
| >
| > That's what you would think. Unfortunately alarm companies don't follow
| > through with the result.
| > Instead AHJ's do.
| >
| >>
| >> Judging alarm companies by the ratio of false alarms to actual
| >> burglaries:
| >> that's complete bullshit.  Alarm companies have no control over how
many
| >> burglary attempts there are.  If all the burglars decided to take the
| >> next
| >> month off, the false alarm rate would be 100%.  If the burglars decide
to
| >> work extra hard and commit more crimes, the false alarm rate would
| > actually
| >> drop.   Would the lower percentage mean that alarms are working better?
| > Of
| >> course not.
| >
| > Look, again...put aside your personal feelings. No body is saying the
| > industry is not effective, nor that alarms aren't either. You're side
| > stepping the information, just like the industry. Some of us just want
to
| > see it more, or most effective. Stop focusing on what you think works,
and
| > realize there is a circular pattern here. Realize for every action,
there
| > is
| > a reaction. For every reactive response, there may be a proactive
| > initiative. Think Man!
| >
| >>
| >> Alarm systems are electronic devices that have a certain failure rate,
| > just
| >> like any other piece of electronic equipment, and that failure rate is
| >> not
| >> affected by the number of burglaries that are attempted.  This is just
| > like
| >> fire alarms.  The number of false fire alarms has nothing to do with
the
| >> number of fires.  I'll bet you'd find the percentage of fire alarms
that
| >> are false is also in the high nineties, simply because there are more
and
| >> more fire alarm systems and no corresponding increase in the number of
| >> fires.
| >
| > These numbers aren't based on comparisons. That's how the Politicians
and
| > idiots, use this information.
| > It's a simple fact of economic's, man-hours vs. tax dollars. Alarm
| > installers/dealers aren't paid by tax dollars, responding authorities
are.
| > Think.
| >
| >> Trying to cut that false alarm percentage is a game the alarm companies
| > can
| >> never win.
| >
| > I disagree. Finding the $9 answer for alarm companies will never happen.
| > It's going to be tough because the industry is geared towards being
| > competitive with one another.
| > The industry is too focused on RMR. Lost was the value that alarm
systems
| > could have, or should have provided. It's not everywhere though. Some,
the
| > few, do make, or try to make a difference in the industry. Some of those
| > guys are right here.
| >
| >
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