Re: "Central Station Service" Poll

["petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx>]

As frank stated you need a ULC listed company..

And I have seen many alarm panel with out of date inspection certificate on
it..
(I started in the Alarm business in a small company that was
installing/servicing/inspecting fire alarm system) and saw my share of VERY
bad installation with LOTS of no-no.. place Ville Marie is one of them..( by
the way my brother used to be the president of the Union of the security
guard at place Ville Marie  ;-) ) he is now an IT expert..

pull station used to be wired in a very special way..At place Ville
Marie,every pull station that were on top off each other at each level were
on the same zone..so you could have a pull station pulled..you could tell it
was a pull station close to the emergency door of the west stairway..but you
could not tell which floor...  ;-) pretty useful!

they were relying on the flow switch on the sprinkler at each level to tell
on which floor was the fire (if any)..

things changed since..but what I am describing is something not that long
ago in history.6 to 7 years max..


Can I ask you what were you doing in montreal?
And are you planning on coming back? if so I would be please to offer you a
drink!
And I have a few question,on how the business is ruled over there in
Florida...we want to kind of regulate the alarm business a little more
around here and as a part of the executive committee of the biggest Union of
Alarm technician in the Province I really want to hear a different point of
view..then the one from the rest of Canada..




"Norm Mugford" <1alarm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> "Frank Olson" <Please-use-the-email-links@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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>> "Norm Mugford" <1alarm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> >I was just in Montreal in September and noticed that the
>> > fire alarm system was in trouble in Place Ville Marie. Went
>> > back the next day and it was still in trouble. I was not aware
>> > that the systems do not have to be monitored unless the
>> > insurance company's required it.
>> > In Westmount, years ago, part of the Alexis Neon Plaza was monitored
>> > at the the Westmount fire house, and the other part at the Montreal
>> > Fire
>> > Department, due to a major fire there many years ago. (The plaza
>> > sits on the border of Montreal/Westmount.)
>> > Are there any differences on the requirements for ULC/FMC
>> > in Canada?
>> >
>> > Norm Mugford
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>> ULC is the standard by which most AHJ's "default" to.  ULC is written
> around
>> NFPA 72 for fire monitoring, requires a licensed, ULC certified company
>> to
>> install the equipment, the use of ULC listed components, and a ULC listed
>> (for fire) monitoring station.  The system must also be certified (five
> year
>> certificate) with *annual* inspections of the equipment mandated.  On a
> lot
>> of buildings in which we service the fire alarm, access control and CCTV
> but
>> don't happen to provide the monitoring service, I rarely see the annual
>> inspection section signed off on.  That is a major "no-no".
>>
>>
> A lot of fire systems are not inspected according to NFPA 72 time frames.
>
> I take it you ment to write "ULC listed company to install the equipment"
> or is there a different ULC requirement?
>
> Norm
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