Re: "Central Station Service" Poll

["Norm Mugford" <1alarm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I was just in Montreal in September and noticed that the
fire alarm system was in trouble in Place Ville Marie. Went
back the next day and it was still in trouble. I was not aware
that the systems do not have to be monitored unless the
insurance company's required it.
In Westmount, years ago, part of the Alexis Neon Plaza was monitored
at the the Westmount fire house, and the other part at the Montreal Fire
Department, due to a major fire there many years ago. (The plaza
sits on the border of Montreal/Westmount.)
Are there any differences on the requirements for ULC/FMC
in Canada?

Norm Mugford




"petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:p1y9f.20055$u8.722805@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> here in Quebec we don't need to have a central station to monitor any fire
> alarm system unless the insurance company ask for it..
>
> but in some city ,there is some ahj that will ask you to have the system
> monitored..
>
> they say that it help the customer keeping its system trouble free..
>
> in fact it make some sense,how many times I entered a small shopping
> mall,and walking in front of the fire alarm panel close of the main entry
> way ,and the panel was in trouble state (silenced) and was still in
trouble
> the next week and on and on..
>
>
> <2alarm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de news:
> J1M8f.16210$_31.3018@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Thanks for all your comments. Getting opinions by the professionals of
> > this group is a big help.
> > We here in the State of Florida are being challenged by some local
> > municipalities when it comes to commercial fire alarm systems. The AHJ's
> > in these south Florida cities and counties are requiring UL or FM
listing
> > on every commercial fire alarm system, because of the way they are
> > interpreting NFPA 72. Seems they think that NFPA 72 requires all systems
> > to have "Central Station Service" and that means Certificated or
> > Placarded. They also know that State law does not allow them to require
> > more than a State license, but they don't care about Florida statutes
that
> > covers the license holders.
> > Are there any other States that are faced with this type of certificated
> > or placarded requirements, enforced only by the AHJ's?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Norm Mugford
> > Licensed Alarm Contractor and
> > Chairman, Florida Electrical Contractors Licensing Board.
> >
> >
> > "Al Colombo" <securitymission@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:1130527289.224895.270870@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Another way to put it is some AHJs require the moon and the sun so to
> >> cover their butts if "anything" should go wrong.  I wonder whether
> >> they'd rethink their position on this if they had to pay out that kind
> >> of cash for a fire alarm system.  Perhaps they'd think twice about
> >> making others do it when it's not really necessary.
> >>
> >> I'm all for fire safety, but I'm not especially keen on throwing
> >> dollars needlessly at an installation just so an AHJ can feel
> >> comfortable at night when they go to bed :-).  At the same time, I've
> >> seen AHJs who require very little.  There ought to be a balance (while
> >> still observing code) with a good helping of common sense thrown in to
> >> boot.
> >>
> >>
> >> Al
> >>
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