Re: What smokes should I use? Not sentrol, right?

["Frank Olson" <feolson@xxxxxxxxxx>]

"Robert L Bass" <sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> A word on UL Compatibility from an 'old timer'
>>>
>>> Lets set the record straight Robert, legally speaking, you
>>> can not hang a 2-wire smoke detector off a panel unless it is UL
>>> Listed for that panel.  If you are wiring somebody else's house, I
>>> would definitely look into the UL Compatibility listings before
>>> connecting any 2-wire smoke detector.  4-wire smoke
>>> detectors or "contact devices" don't need to be UL Compatible.
>>>
>>> If you are wiring your own house, this may or may not be an issue.
>>> However, should there be a fire and your detectors do not respond,
>>> you'll have 'no leg to stand on' in court.
>>
>> I thought that according to NFPA the 2 wire smokes had to be "listed" by
>> the 'manufacturer' of the panel for use with the panel.  This basically
>> means that the smokes have been tested by the 'manufacturer' and
>> certified to work with their panel.
>
> The previous poster is partially correct.  Before using a 2-wire
> smoke with any panel, make certain that the detector is UL listed
> for use with that panel.  The panel manufacturer OR the smoke
> detector manufacturer may list the detector and either is
> acceptable.
>
> As to the "no leg to stand on" comment, I assume the poster was
> referring to insurance coverage since the context referred to DIY
> installations.  That's an oft-repeated fallacy here in ASA.
> Unless there is a specific clause requiring a UL *certificated*
> system, the insurance coverage remains intact.  Insurance
> companies cannot decline to pay based on an error in the
> installation of one's alarm.  OTOH, if one of the "professional"
> installers makes a mistake the insurance company can go after his
> company in subrogatiuon.  They'll still pay the hjomeowner first,
> but then they will sue the pants off the alarm company.  That's
> why alarm companies need to have strictly worded limitation of
> liability and indemnification clauses in their contracts.
> Without the legal protection they'd lose their shirts every time
> they srew up an installation or take an hour or more to respond
> to a real alarm.
>
> Hope this helps clarify the matter.


Yep...  You're running a "sole proprietorship"...  out of Brazil...  Need
anyone say more??