Re: Do YOU ACTUALLY Own Your Equipment -- Truce?

["R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"mikey" <loismustdie@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> I usually read the first 3 pages then start to nod off...
> Seriously, Bob, he's right. When you attack ADT, you're attacking the
> industry. That's all of us.

RHC: Sorry to bore you....:)) ADT is hardly the industry ! They are the
biggest in the business but account for no more than 15% of the industry. My
friend, the industry is US...you and I (and Jim), and other small and medium
sized dealers who hold the balance of power albeit in a totally unorganized
way.

If you remember, I still am a third party dealer on ADT's station. I have 10
clients who refuse to change for perceptual reasons, so I am stuck with ADT.
If you had major problems with your monitoring station, I'm sure you'd
complain as well ! (Hell,if you remember, when Security 24 and Protectron
amalgamated, a slew of dealers deserted the station for nothing more than
political reasons. But with ADT the problems were and are real! ). I could
write a book about those bad experiences with ADT, but I won't bore you with
them. But if I "attack" ADT, I can assure you, I am NOT attacking the
industry in general - just reflecting upon my own bad experiences as a
dealer !!
>>
>> You don't like it, use the "block sender" option ! Who the hell made
>> you the newsgroup censor ? I blocked your vile, ignorant posts for the
>> longest time but unblocked them when I saw the occasional intelligent
>> post
>> quite by accident. This time, if you don't like my posts, take the same
>> action !!
>>
> Bob, you're scaring me here: you sound like a fish (bass)
> Don't try to BS me that you don't know Jim is a top-notch installer. I
> save
> some
> of his posts in my notes and I bet you do too. My money says you have
> never blocked him.

RHC: You'd lose your bet then ! I had him blocked for about 6 months, but
unblocked him because I sensed that it was counterproductive. And I won't
again as long as he posts without vindictive bile ! I have no doubt he may
be a top notch installer; that's never been an issue !!
>
> > Cooper is playing with something I think has to do with the changes in
> > low
> frequency sound waves in a building when a door or window is opened.
> It had a legitimate beginning way back in the 70s methinks but it never
> seemed
> to catch on, maybe it doesn't work,  I thought it held a lot of promise.

RHC: As near as anyone can tell, it is an ultrasonic device. I had an
ultrasonic motion years ago on my first DIY home alarm, and it false alarmed
so often that it became pretty clear that the technology was next to
useless. I bought it from Peter Leclair of VSN fame, back 30 years ago when
I did locksmithing and window bar work for the firm in it's early beginning.
The stuff was crap !!

> Unless you have one and confirmit doesn't work, "scammer" is a pretty
> strong
> accusation.

RHC: If you remember, for years I and many others offered to give his unit a
fair test, but he always ducked and ran. So scammer still holds !!

> Paul is on a mission, he went away when he got bored. Many of us popped
> up to ensure readers weren't duped, in fact, do you recall who led the
> charge?

RHC: No I don't, but I remember it was many years ago.....did the guy per
chance have a "white knight" riding along with him ?

> And finally, I, for one, appreciate his pompous defense of the industry.
> It sounds like he is proud of his work and his chosen trade, what exactly
> is wrong with that?

RHC: Absolutely nothing Mike ! I agree with that thrust in general. Where we
part company is when he takes a small part of what I say and in effect takes
it largely out of context. Then as if to win some sort of point, he starts
on other unrelated things like unlocking boards in some sort of ridiculous
attempt to make me out some sort of a bad guy, even going so far as to
suggest I am dishonest ! Well tell that to Jim Rojas who is anything but a
bad guy, and who does many times the volume I do (sorry to drag you into
this JR..)

 By all means, Bob, tone it down. But not to spare us his tirades, I enjoy
 them.

RHC: Well good, glad you do....

> The man has a gift, maybe he was Navy or Army back there somewhere. I
> always
> know EXACTLY what's on his mind or how he feels. And my vocabulary has
> improved too.

RHC: Yeah, that would certainly fit the image. He certainly didn't learn it
in any school of higher learning !
And YOUR vocabulary ?....you mean at your age, you still haven't learned to
swear like a sailor without his help....:)))

 Do it because he's right. You can tell folks how you run your
 business  but no need to denigrate others who don't see things your way.

RHC: As I said, I don't denigrate any legitimate small dealer in the
industry. Why would I....I AM one for crying out loud !!!! I don't know how
many times I have to repeat that. I'm simply telling readers there are many
ways to buy their alarm system, and to look at them all before casting the
die. Locally Henderson Security have that way as one of many options
available. Numerous other companies do so as well, albeit most do so as a
"fallback position" rather than lose the sale..

So there. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

RHC: Ok, but no "wacky tobaccy"...




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