Re: Wireless receiver - computer problem?

["Russell Brill" <russwbrill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Robertm" <Respond@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Russell Brill" <russwbrill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> "Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> Russell Brill wrote:
>>>> "Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>> I know about the other crap too...... Bass is a professional
>>>> "Agitator", I
>>>> knew a few back in my CB radio days, those guys loved to tear up a
>>>> channel
>>>> for hours each night... When he says things like "any monkey can
>>>> install an
>>>> alarm", he's pushing buttons (A.K.A. dropped the hook in the water) and
>>>> waiting for a response with a grin on his face... A couple of minutes
>>>> will
>>>> pass before the first "F**K you (A.K.A. Bite) comes in... ahhhhhhhhhhh
>>>> satisfaction is achieved after he gets another persons goat....... Need
>>>> I
>>>> say anymore?
>>>> >
>>>
>>> You could say that after it reaches the point of becoming personal
>>> attacks, and outrageous denigration of individuals, it should not be
>>> tolerated by ALL the participants in this Newsgroup. You could also say
>>> that by not objecting to such offensive conduct enables and encourages
>>> more of the same. As it obviously does. You could say that if no one
>>> ever objects to obnoxious behavior it just becomes accepted as normal.
>>> His entire existence in this group is to sell equipment to unsuspecting
>>> end users who he lies to about his experience and his presence in the
>>> installation business. His ploy and inferences that all installers are
>>> out to scam the public, could be put to rest. If you stop the sales,
>>> eventually he'll find another more enjoyable place to spend time to get
>>> business or finally begin acting polite. All it would take is the same
>>> as the Aviation group did. Posting just some of his bad habits every
>>> time he tried to do business here and not interacting with him would
>>> suffice. That could easliy be done here, with cooperation. E-mails from
>>> lukers and End users seem to indicate that I have some sucess at that,
>>> all by my self. Just imagine ..... Peace at last ..........
>>>
>>> It's unfortunate that at this point, fighting fire with fire is the
>>> only recourse left if it is left up to individuals to fight the fight.
>>>
>>> I do have to admit, he's partially right about one thing. There is an
>>> Idiot Brigade here, but in my opinion ...... not for the reasons he
>>> cites.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Does that mean that you wouldn't give help to a DIY'er who came to
>>>> > this
>>>> > forum for advice?
>>>> >
>>>> I used to, but I've gotten tired of giving free advice to people that
>>>> seem
>>>> to expect it... The whole "I bought this system from ABC electronics
>>>> and
>>>> need help installing it" scenario is really old... I wish they'd call
>>>> the
>>>> company they purchased the system from... Why should any of us provide
>>>> free
>>>> tech support for online dealers that don't answer the telephone?
>>>
>>>
>>> I suggest that your read Bob L's excellent post. I don't mind helping
>>> most people who come here. Just not the demanding or obnoxious ones. If
>>> you play nice with people ..... they'll usually play nice back. If they
>>> don't, they can expect the same treatment back. That's not really that
>>> hard for most people to understand.... except for FAT ASS.
>>>
>>
>>> His ploy and inferences that all installers are
>>> out to scam the public, could be put to rest. If you stop the sales,
>>> eventually he'll find another more enjoyable place to spend time to get
>>> business or finally begin acting polite.
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> I agree with you on the comment listed above, I just don't agree with
>> your methods... Name calling & profanity don't help you win over
>> newcomers on the NG... You and some of the others might want to change to
>> a better approach, like educating potential system buyers about the
>> dangers of buying from retailers (ALL, Not just Bass Burglar Alarms)
>> located in other states, having them check the retailer's BBB record, and
>> the pitfalls of purchasing alarm monitoring from a company that's not
>> licensed in the buyer's home state...
>>
>> Just my 1/2 cent, Russ
> What is the danger in buying from a retailer? I've gotten ripped off by
> more contractors at my home than by retailers who sold me merchandise that
> I installed myself. The licensed plumber with the leaky pipes that ruined
> the carpet, the roofing guy who didn't know how to install roofing, the
> concrete people who didn't understand plumb, level, square. I don't know
> where you live, but in rural Tennessee they have a completely different
> definition of what a professional is. After a professional leaves, the
> homeowner must then repair what wasn't broken before.
>
> Bob
>
In California your Plumber would be in HOT water if you complained to the
Contractors State License Board (A.K.A. CSLB)... CSLB would even arbitrate
the case on your behalf if it had merit... However, if I (a California
resident) buy something from one of the contractors in Tennessee and I get
burned, CSLB can't do anything for me... So it's much better for a
California resident to do business with a CA company/contractor because of
the legal protections that are available to the CA consumer... Sorry to hear
about the lack of protections for Tennessee consumers........ Regards, Russ