Re: Bypass Telco's NID box?

["mikey" <someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Oh fucking no.

"petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:_Bi5e.8838$sj1.240121@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> They are not in strike
>
> in January this year about 30 % of all there oldest technical employee
took
> there retirement
>
> it was a proposal from the main office to try lowering there pay roll
>
> But now the rookies that run the place don't know shit what there doing...
>
> "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de
news:
> ZpOdnbtblrShEMjfRVn-rw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Yeah Mike, I had about 100 call in "late to tests" that weekend. It
seems
> > the circuits between Montreal, Ottawa and Toronto went down within the
> > Bell network, and this (supposedly) caused the problem.
> >
> > Don't know how local systems would ever be affected by toll lines in
that
> > manner, but ...hey.....I only worked for Bell for 27 years...what the
hell
> > do I know !!!
> >
> > It does seem that Bell technicians are on strike, but I've only ever
heard
> > that from clients who've had to postpone their installations because of
a
> > lack of a phone line in their new homes....
> >
> > RHC
> >
> > "mikey" <someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:6rKdncj0zbyMEcjfRVn-gw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>I had 30 accounts fail to test one evening, Bob. I freaked. I thought
> >>maybe
> >> the station's receiver was fucked up or something. It was Bell, just
> >> before
> >> the techs walked curiously enough. We gotta start that station, Bob...
> >> we'll
> >> incorporate an RF network and clean up I tells ya.
> >>
> >> "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:nKadnXvtUJhhpcjfRVn-pQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Gawd....I can relate to that ! I have two enemies in this business;
> >>> first
> >> is
> >>> Bell Canada, and the second are drywallers !
> >>>
> >>> I don't know how many times I've been called out on "late to test"
only
> >>> to
> >>> find that the Bell tech has hooked up dial tone to both sides of the
> >>> exclusion jack, or worse, couldn't figure out what it was, so cut it
out
> >> of
> >>> the loop totally. If I could find a way to effectively bill Bell for
> >>> every
> >>> call caused by their ineptitude with alarms, I could get rich just on
> >> these
> >>> charges. I've taken to telling clients not to let the tech leave until
> >> they
> >>> have tested the alarm system for communications. Doesn't always work,
> >>> but
> >> it
> >>> makes the tech be a bit more careful (sometimes)
> >>>
> >>> These people are driving me crazy.....
> >>>
> >>> RHC
> >>>
> >>> "Bob Worthy" <securinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> news:Tx95e.33896$f%4.17420@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > Just like everytime there is a phone problem at a home, the first
> >>> > thing
> >>> > the
> >>> > person asks, at Ma Bell, is "do you have an alarm system?" Answer:
> >>> > "Yes"
> >>> > Ma
> >>> > Bell response is "Then the problem is your alarm system"
> >>> > BHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! True experience: I own two
unrelated
> >>> > businesses sharing the same facility. The main number for the other
> >>> > business
> >>> > went dead. I already checked and there was no dial tone at the
demark.
> >>> > I
> >>> > told the manager to open a trouble ticket. Ma Bell asked their
> >>> > favorite
> >>> > question and gave their favorite answer. I told the manager to call
> >>> > back
> >>> > and
> >>> > tell them the alarm company disconnected the alarm and still had
> >> trouble.
> >>> > Favorite question #2. "Do you have a telephone system? "Yes" Well,
> >>> > that
> >> is
> >>> > the problem. I told the manager to call back and tell them "Now that
> >>> > we
> >>> > have
> >>> > a bill from our alarm company and a bill from our telephone system
> >>> > company"
> >>> > who is going to get us dial tone at the demark and who is going to
pay
> >>> > these
> >>> > bills?" Of course there were no bills and they did come out after
> >>> > three
> >>> > calls and fix the line. Bottom line is that Bell is living is the
past
> >>> > thinking alarm systems are the "cause all" problem with Bells
> >>> > inadequencies.
> >>> > There is no thought given to every $9.95 piece of grap telephone,
> >>> > answering
> >>> > machine, modem, fax, etc., people buy from god knows where and plug
> >>> > into
> >>> > their telephone lines. Bell employees, including technicians, may
know
> >>> > their
> >>> > job, but they sure don't know ours. I've tried using bell techs in
the
> >>> > past
> >>> > and they just don't get it if they can't use a staple gun!
> >>> >
> >>> > Bob4Secur
> >>> >
> >>> > "Jen...tel" <poleclimber@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> > news:1112851679.100698.75520@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> Geez you alarm guys have no idea what you're talking about. All it
> >>> >> takes is one alarm "technician" to say something and the rest of
you
> >>> >> go
> >>> >> babbling as if it's truth.
> >>> >> The location of the entry point is controlled by the dominant
carrier
> >>> >> of the wireline.  They say where it must be and that's all that's
> >>> >> required by federal regulation.  This so called tariff you speak of
> >>> >> is
> >>> >> a simple federal regulation controlling premise demarcation and
MPOE.
> >>> >> The wireline carrier states where the demarcation entry point is
> >>> >> located.  This is normally the location where the block was first
> >>> >> installed at a site.  All changes from that will follow federal
> >>> >> regulation for a MPOE.  Move the "box' all you like but we are not
> >>> >> responsible for anything past the recorded PAP for the demarcation
or
> >>> >> MPOE.  One other thing, the box housing the jump & protector is the
> >>> >> property of the installing phone company.  Homeowners have no
rights
> >>> >> to
> >>> >> move or alter it.  Its location is based on a permanent recorded
> >>> >> federal utility right-of-way.
> >>> >> All you alarm guys who moved it without getting Ma's permission
have
> >>> >> screwed the homeowner.  All it takes is a call.  Qwest will
relocate
> >>> >> a
> >>> >> demarc from for security purposes if a customer ask.  If we move
it,
> >>> >> a
> >>> >> MPOE is established and that means we take on the responsibility.
> >>> >> You
> >>> >> homeowners need to stop trusting what alarm technicians say about
> >>> >> telephone issues cause those guys know jack about what they are
> >>> >> saying.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Jenn
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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