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Your right that it would be much easier to do the upstairs, but I'd
still have to replace all the wiring to the switches, and it's really
the downstairs rooms that will need the most automation.
As far as I've seen, the wireless CBus doesn't have a PC interface, so
that would rule it out for me. I'm hoping the ZWave stuff will do what
I need - if I rehouse the dimmer I should be able to place it behind the
ceiling rose, and retain the original switch wiring (although I would of
course need a push button switch, same as X10)
Mal
Frank Mc Alinden wrote:
> Hi Mal
>
> > I'd love to install CBus, but I can't justify the disruption and
> > redecoration to install it.
>
> Not possible to hardwire the upstairs with cbus (you can then add a pc
> interface) and do downstairs in wireless??...
> Have now got my wireless cbus modules working ;-))...It really does
> help if
> you read the instructions......;-)
>
> Frank
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mal Lansell" <mal@xxxxxxx>
> To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 10:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] xPLLib License Issue...
>
>
> > I'd love to install CBus, but I can't justify the disruption and
> > redecoration to install it. I thought the wireless solution
would be
> > the answer, but there is no PC interface (I know I could probably
open
> > and hack the remotes, but I may as well use ZWave instead)
> >
> > Mal
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Frank Mc Alinden wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Mal
> >>
> >> Has a browse and couldnt find anything regarding Oz style
Zwave plugin
> >> modules.....
> >> Might have to have another look at trying to get my CBUS
Wireless
> gateway
> >> working ...
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Frank
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Mal Lansell" <mal@xxxxxxx>
> >> To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 6:21 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] xPLLib License Issue...
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi Frank,
> >> >
> >> > I don't know about Oz, but there are a lot of modules
coming out
> in the
> >> > US, and there are a few in the UK. I expect the number
to grow over
> >> > the
> >> > next couple of years. The technology is based on an RF
mesh network
> >> > similar to Zigbee, but whereas Zigbee looks to be aimed
at the
> >> > commerical/industrial user, ZWave is definitely aimed at
the
> home. The
> >> > price is a bit higher than X10 - £35 per module compared
to £20 for
> >> > X10,
> >> > but that still puts it into the budget end of the HA
market IMO.
> >> >
> >> > So far in the UK there is are plug-in dimmers and
switches (like the
> >> > X10
> >> > lamp and appliance modules, and RF remote (for
programming the
> modules
> >> > and for quick scene changes) and a USB PC interface.
You can see
> them
> >> > on LetsAutomate. That doesn't sound like much, but the
plug-in
> modules
> >> > have a button for local control, so it should be fairly
> straightforward
> >> > to break them out and mount the contents in a suitable
box for a
> >> > "wired"
> >> > version, with the local control connected to a momentary
wall switch.
> >> >
> >> > The remote is supposedly essential for configuring the
network, but
> >> > I've
> >> > managed to set up modules using the USB interface and
some quick and
> >> > dirty c# code ;-). You definitely don't need the £130
software that
> >> > Lets Automate suggests - drivers for their PC interface
can be
> obtained
> >> > quite easily.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not going to be allowed to release my code
publically until the
> >> > ZWave SDK on which it is based is released, and the SDK
key
> purchase /
> >> > unlock system is in place, but I will be able to send
the application
> >> > out privately (when it's a bit more done!) for testing
before then.
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> >
> >> > Mal
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Frank Mc Alinden wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Mal
> >> >>
> >> >> > I'm currently working on a ZWave connector for
xPL.
> >> >>
> >> >> This is interesting.....What modules are currently
available to
> te UK
> >> >> Market...???....I would like to use some plugin
modules but im
> >> >> reluctant to
> >> >> use x10 plugin modules as i currently only have one
and sometimes it
> >> >> works
> >> >> and sometimes it doesnt....Wonder if there are any
Oz versions
> of the
> >> >> Zwave
> >> >> kit available...????
> >> >>
> >> >> Frank
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Mal Lansell" <mal@xxxxxxx>
> >> >> To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> >> >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 10:38 PM
> >> >> Subject: [ukha_xpl] xPLLib License Issue...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > I'm currently working on a ZWave connector for
xPL. I have some
> >> ZWave
> >> >> > devices, and they work really well - because
they are RF there
> >> are none
> >> >> > of the delays of X10, and they confirm their
status changes
> >> (hooray!).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Unfortunately, there is no free SDK for
controlling ZWave via
> >> their PC
> >> >> > interfaces. IMO, this is a huge mistake, but
that's how it is.
> >> >> > Zensys'
> >> >> > own ZWave SDK is very expensive, but there is a
company called
> >> >> > ControlThink that is in the process of creating
a USB
> interface, and
> >> >> > that will ship with a usable SDK. This SDK
will also work with
> >> >> > other
> >> >> > ZWave controllers, and licenses will be
available to download and
> >> >> > use
> >> >> > the SDK without needing to buy their hardware.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The SDK is written in .NET, so I would like to
use the .NET
> xPLLib
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > handle the xPL side of things, and here is
where I run into the
> >> >> > problem. xPLLib is released under the GPL
license, and as far as
> >> I can
> >> >> > tell, that is incompatible with the ZWave SDK
license (which
> >> >> > requires
> >> >> > the purchase of the SDK and therefore prevents
me releasing the
> >> >> > connector software as freeware).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Is there a way round this? Have I
misunderstood the GPL
> >> license? Or
> >> >> > am
> >> >> > I going to have to not use the xPLLib - which
would seriously
> >> impede my
> >> >> > ability to release this useful connector
service?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Regards
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mal
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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