Re: xPLLib License Issue...

["Frank Mc Alinden" <frankmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Mal

Has a browse and couldnt find anything regarding Oz style Zwave plugin
modules.....
Might have to have another look at trying to get my CBUS Wireless gateway
working ...

Thanks
Frank

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mal Lansell" <mal@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] xPLLib License Issue...


> Hi Frank,
>
> I don't know about Oz, but there are a lot of modules coming out in
the
> US, and there are a few in the UK.  I expect the number to grow over
the
> next couple of years.  The technology is based on an RF mesh network
> similar to Zigbee, but whereas Zigbee looks to be aimed at the
> commerical/industrial user, ZWave is definitely aimed at the home. 
The
> price is a bit higher than X10 - £35 per module compared to £20 for
X10,
> but that still puts it into the budget end of the HA market IMO.
>
> So far in the UK there is are plug-in dimmers and switches (like the
X10
> lamp and appliance modules, and RF remote (for programming the modules
> and for quick scene changes) and a USB PC interface.  You can see them
> on LetsAutomate.  That doesn't sound like much, but the plug-in
modules
> have a button for local control, so it should be fairly
straightforward
> to break them out and mount the contents in a suitable box for a
"wired"
> version, with the local control connected to a momentary wall switch.
>
> The remote is supposedly essential for configuring the network, but
I've
> managed to set up modules using the USB interface and some quick and
> dirty c# code ;-).  You definitely don't need the £130 software that
> Lets Automate suggests - drivers for their PC interface can be
obtained
> quite easily.
>
> I'm not going to be allowed to release my code publically until the
> ZWave SDK on which it is based is released, and the SDK key purchase /
> unlock system is in place, but I will be able to send the application
> out privately (when it's a bit more done!) for testing before then.
>
> Regards
>
> Mal
>
>
>
>
> Frank Mc Alinden wrote:
>
>> Hi Mal
>>
>> > I'm currently working on a ZWave connector for xPL.
>>
>> This is interesting.....What modules are currently available to te
UK
>> Market...???....I would like to use some plugin modules but im
>> reluctant to
>> use x10 plugin modules as i currently only have one and sometimes
it
>> works
>> and sometimes it doesnt....Wonder if there are any Oz versions of
the
>> Zwave
>> kit available...????
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mal Lansell" <mal@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 10:38 PM
>> Subject: [ukha_xpl] xPLLib License Issue...
>>
>>
>> > I'm currently working on a ZWave connector for xPL.  I have
some ZWave
>> > devices, and they work really well - because they are RF
there are none
>> > of the delays of X10, and they confirm their status changes
(hooray!).
>> >
>> > Unfortunately, there is no free SDK for controlling ZWave via
their PC
>> > interfaces.  IMO, this is a huge mistake, but that's how it
is.
>> > Zensys'
>> > own ZWave SDK is very expensive, but there is a company
called
>> > ControlThink that is in the process of creating a USB
interface, and
>> > that will ship with a usable SDK.  This SDK will also work
with other
>> > ZWave controllers, and licenses will be available to download
and use
>> > the SDK without needing to buy their hardware.
>> >
>> > The SDK is written in .NET, so I would like to use the .NET
xPLLib to
>> > handle the xPL side of things, and here is where I run into
the
>> > problem.  xPLLib is released under the GPL license, and as
far as I can
>> > tell, that is incompatible with the ZWave SDK license (which
requires
>> > the purchase of the SDK and therefore prevents me releasing
the
>> > connector software as freeware).
>> >
>> > Is there a way round this?  Have I misunderstood the GPL
license?  Or
>> > am
>> > I going to have to not use the xPLLib - which would seriously
impede my
>> > ability to release this useful connector service?
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Mal
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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