Re: xPLLib License Issue...

[Mal Lansell <mal@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'd love to install CBus, but I can't justify the disruption and
redecoration to install it.  I thought the wireless solution would be
the answer, but there is no PC interface (I know I could probably open
and hack the remotes, but I may as well use ZWave instead)

Mal




Frank Mc Alinden wrote:

> Thanks Mal
>
> Has a browse and couldnt find anything regarding Oz style Zwave plugin
> modules.....
> Might have to have another look at trying to get my CBUS Wireless
gateway
> working ...
>
> Thanks
> Frank
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mal Lansell" <mal@xxxxxxx>
> To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 6:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] xPLLib License Issue...
>
>
> > Hi Frank,
> >
> > I don't know about Oz, but there are a lot of modules coming out
in the
> > US, and there are a few in the UK.  I expect the number to grow
over the
> > next couple of years.  The technology is based on an RF mesh
network
> > similar to Zigbee, but whereas Zigbee looks to be aimed at the
> > commerical/industrial user, ZWave is definitely aimed at the
home.  The
> > price is a bit higher than X10 - £35 per module compared to £20
for X10,
> > but that still puts it into the budget end of the HA market IMO.
> >
> > So far in the UK there is are plug-in dimmers and switches (like
the X10
> > lamp and appliance modules, and RF remote (for programming the
modules
> > and for quick scene changes) and a USB PC interface.  You can see
them
> > on LetsAutomate.  That doesn't sound like much, but the plug-in
modules
> > have a button for local control, so it should be fairly
straightforward
> > to break them out and mount the contents in a suitable box for a
"wired"
> > version, with the local control connected to a momentary wall
switch.
> >
> > The remote is supposedly essential for configuring the network,
but I've
> > managed to set up modules using the USB interface and some quick
and
> > dirty c# code ;-).  You definitely don't need the £130 software
that
> > Lets Automate suggests - drivers for their PC interface can be
obtained
> > quite easily.
> >
> > I'm not going to be allowed to release my code publically until
the
> > ZWave SDK on which it is based is released, and the SDK key
purchase /
> > unlock system is in place, but I will be able to send the
application
> > out privately (when it's a bit more done!) for testing before
then.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Mal
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Frank Mc Alinden wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Mal
> >>
> >> > I'm currently working on a ZWave connector for xPL.
> >>
> >> This is interesting.....What modules are currently available
to te UK
> >> Market...???....I would like to use some plugin modules but
im
> >> reluctant to
> >> use x10 plugin modules as i currently only have one and
sometimes it
> >> works
> >> and sometimes it doesnt....Wonder if there are any Oz
versions of the
> >> Zwave
> >> kit available...????
> >>
> >> Frank
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Mal Lansell" <mal@xxxxxxx>
> >> To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 10:38 PM
> >> Subject: [ukha_xpl] xPLLib License Issue...
> >>
> >>
> >> > I'm currently working on a ZWave connector for xPL.  I
have some
> ZWave
> >> > devices, and they work really well - because they are RF
there
> are none
> >> > of the delays of X10, and they confirm their status
changes
> (hooray!).
> >> >
> >> > Unfortunately, there is no free SDK for controlling
ZWave via
> their PC
> >> > interfaces.  IMO, this is a huge mistake, but that's how
it is.
> >> > Zensys'
> >> > own ZWave SDK is very expensive, but there is a company
called
> >> > ControlThink that is in the process of creating a USB
interface, and
> >> > that will ship with a usable SDK.  This SDK will also
work with other
> >> > ZWave controllers, and licenses will be available to
download and use
> >> > the SDK without needing to buy their hardware.
> >> >
> >> > The SDK is written in .NET, so I would like to use the
.NET xPLLib to
> >> > handle the xPL side of things, and here is where I run
into the
> >> > problem.  xPLLib is released under the GPL license, and
as far as
> I can
> >> > tell, that is incompatible with the ZWave SDK license
(which requires
> >> > the purchase of the SDK and therefore prevents me
releasing the
> >> > connector software as freeware).
> >> >
> >> > Is there a way round this?  Have I misunderstood the GPL
> license?  Or
> >> > am
> >> > I going to have to not use the xPLLib - which would
seriously
> impede my
> >> > ability to release this useful connector service?
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> >
> >> > Mal
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > xPL Links: http://www.xplproject.org.uk http://www.xplhal.com
> >> > http://www.xpl.myby.co.uk
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> >>
> >>
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