Re: xPLLib License Issue...

["Frank Mc Alinden" <frankmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Mal

> I'd love to install CBus, but I can't justify the disruption and
> redecoration to install it.

Not possible to hardwire the upstairs with cbus (you can then add a pc
interface) and do downstairs in wireless??...
Have now got my wireless cbus modules working ;-))...It really does help if
you read  the instructions......;-)

Frank





----- Original Message -----
From: "Mal Lansell" <mal@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] xPLLib License Issue...


> I'd love to install CBus, but I can't justify the disruption and
> redecoration to install it.  I thought the wireless solution would be
> the answer, but there is no PC interface (I know I could probably open
> and hack the remotes, but I may as well use ZWave instead)
>
> Mal
>
>
>
>
> Frank Mc Alinden wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mal
>>
>> Has a browse and couldnt find anything regarding Oz style Zwave
plugin
>> modules.....
>> Might have to have another look at trying to get my CBUS Wireless
gateway
>> working ...
>>
>> Thanks
>> Frank
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mal Lansell" <mal@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 6:21 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] xPLLib License Issue...
>>
>>
>> > Hi Frank,
>> >
>> > I don't know about Oz, but there are a lot of modules coming
out in the
>> > US, and there are a few in the UK.  I expect the number to
grow over
>> > the
>> > next couple of years.  The technology is based on an RF mesh
network
>> > similar to Zigbee, but whereas Zigbee looks to be aimed at
the
>> > commerical/industrial user, ZWave is definitely aimed at the
home.  The
>> > price is a bit higher than X10 - £35 per module compared to
£20 for
>> > X10,
>> > but that still puts it into the budget end of the HA market
IMO.
>> >
>> > So far in the UK there is are plug-in dimmers and switches
(like the
>> > X10
>> > lamp and appliance modules, and RF remote (for programming
the modules
>> > and for quick scene changes) and a USB PC interface.  You can
see them
>> > on LetsAutomate.  That doesn't sound like much, but the
plug-in modules
>> > have a button for local control, so it should be fairly
straightforward
>> > to break them out and mount the contents in a suitable box
for a
>> > "wired"
>> > version, with the local control connected to a momentary wall
switch.
>> >
>> > The remote is supposedly essential for configuring the
network, but
>> > I've
>> > managed to set up modules using the USB interface and some
quick and
>> > dirty c# code ;-).  You definitely don't need the £130
software that
>> > Lets Automate suggests - drivers for their PC interface can
be obtained
>> > quite easily.
>> >
>> > I'm not going to be allowed to release my code publically
until the
>> > ZWave SDK on which it is based is released, and the SDK key
purchase /
>> > unlock system is in place, but I will be able to send the
application
>> > out privately (when it's a bit more done!) for testing before
then.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Mal
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Frank Mc Alinden wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Mal
>> >>
>> >> > I'm currently working on a ZWave connector for xPL.
>> >>
>> >> This is interesting.....What modules are currently
available to te UK
>> >> Market...???....I would like to use some plugin modules
but im
>> >> reluctant to
>> >> use x10 plugin modules as i currently only have one and
sometimes it
>> >> works
>> >> and sometimes it doesnt....Wonder if there are any Oz
versions of the
>> >> Zwave
>> >> kit available...????
>> >>
>> >> Frank
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Mal Lansell" <mal@xxxxxxx>
>> >> To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 10:38 PM
>> >> Subject: [ukha_xpl] xPLLib License Issue...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > I'm currently working on a ZWave connector for xPL. 
I have some
>> ZWave
>> >> > devices, and they work really well - because they
are RF there
>> are none
>> >> > of the delays of X10, and they confirm their status
changes
>> (hooray!).
>> >> >
>> >> > Unfortunately, there is no free SDK for controlling
ZWave via
>> their PC
>> >> > interfaces.  IMO, this is a huge mistake, but that's
how it is.
>> >> > Zensys'
>> >> > own ZWave SDK is very expensive, but there is a
company called
>> >> > ControlThink that is in the process of creating a
USB interface, and
>> >> > that will ship with a usable SDK.  This SDK will
also work with
>> >> > other
>> >> > ZWave controllers, and licenses will be available to
download and
>> >> > use
>> >> > the SDK without needing to buy their hardware.
>> >> >
>> >> > The SDK is written in .NET, so I would like to use
the .NET xPLLib
>> >> > to
>> >> > handle the xPL side of things, and here is where I
run into the
>> >> > problem.  xPLLib is released under the GPL license,
and as far as
>> I can
>> >> > tell, that is incompatible with the ZWave SDK
license (which
>> >> > requires
>> >> > the purchase of the SDK and therefore prevents me
releasing the
>> >> > connector software as freeware).
>> >> >
>> >> > Is there a way round this?  Have I misunderstood the
GPL
>> license?  Or
>> >> > am
>> >> > I going to have to not use the xPLLib - which would
seriously
>> impede my
>> >> > ability to release this useful connector service?
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards
>> >> >
>> >> > Mal
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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