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Another option is to use Cat5e SWA run directly in the ground =E2=80=93
Thi=
s is what I chows to do with my new shed, I ran a 6mm 3-ore SWA for power
a=
nd Cat5e SWA for data rather than worrying about running in ducting. I got
=
my Cat5e SWA from TLC Direct in a cut length rather than buying a complete
=
drum.
=20
Neil B.
=20
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]=20
Sent: 12 June 2016 12:33
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Clipsal pink Cat5 and mains cable
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Should you wish you could always insert the pink cable in an outer jacket
a=
nyway. Just be careful to seal it at the ends such that it doesn't
retain=
water. I even think there are some partially flexible metallised sheaths=
that could held reduce magnetic interference if earthed. Don't ask me to =
suggest one though. If the mains cable is an armoured one then its
surr=
ounded by a metal earthed braid anyway which will help with both
interferen=
ce and isolation.=20
Depending on ease of access you might consider running a spare pink cable
t=
oo. I have a similar situation where I didn't do this and later wanted to
=
add C-Bus to the 100 Mbit/s Ethernet bearing CAT5e. In frustration and
clu=
tching my rabbits foot I tried utilising the spare conductors within the
C=
AT5e cable for C-Bus but it didn't work.
K
On 12/06/2016 10:29, Tim Hawes timsyahoo@xxxxxxx [ukha_d] wrote:
Gents,=20
=20
Thank you very much for your replies.=20
The cat5 cable(s) will be for regular data so I can get Sonos in the shed,
=
or rather for the patio in front.=20
The appeal of the clipsal cable was for it's sheath rating and it's good
to=
know it's ok for the 10m length, plus (I will assume) some looping through=
3 junction boxes along the way.
=20
I've also found the pics of the ducting & junction boxes I put in - it
was =
only 9 years ago...
http://www.fircones.co.uk/ha/garden2.htm
=20
=20
Cheers,
Tim.
=20
On 12 June 2016 at 08:45, Paul Gale groups2@xxxxxxx [ukha_d] <ukha=
_d@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Cat5E for data (gigabit) might be a different matter though over 10m next
t=
o power (not that you asked for that!) - I'd imagine the data on C-Bus is
g=
oing to be pretty low bandwidth?
Paul.
-----Original Message-----
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 11 June 2016 19:28
To: Tim Hawes timsyahoo@xxxxxxx [ukha_d] <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Clipsal pink Cat5 and mains cable
On Sat, 11 Jun 2016, Tim Hawes timsyahoo@xxxxxxx [ukha_d] wrote:
> The description for the pink cable says:
> "A second feature is that the cable may for short runs be routed
into
> a switchboard close to mains cable."
It should be fine running the C-Bus pink cable close to live mains cables.
The reason why it is not normally recommended is that an active power
cable=
induces a current (as interference) on nearby cables but the CAT5e arrange=
ment should minimise that. Also, the pink C-Bus cable sheath is mains
rated=
so should be fine having it close to power cables.
Regards,
Kwong Li
li@xxxxxxx
Laser Business Systems Ltd.
http://www.laser.com
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<div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Another
option is to =
use Cat5e SWA run directly in the ground =E2=80=93 This is what I chows to
=
do with my new shed, I ran a 6mm 3-ore SWA for power and Cat5e SWA for
data=
rather than worrying about running in ducting. I got my Cat5e SWA from TLC=
Direct in a cut length rather than buying a complete
drum.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cal=
ibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMs=
oNormal><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";=
color:#1F497D'>Neil
B.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><a name=3D=
"_MailEndCompose"><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sa=
ns-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><div><div
style=3D=
'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm
0cm'><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mail=
to:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] <br><b>Sent:</b> 12 June 2016
12:33<br><b>To:</b=
> ukha_d@xxxxxxx<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ukha_d]
Clipsal pink Cat5 =
and mains
cable<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>=
</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>
<o:p></o:p></p><div id=3Dygrp-m=
lmsg><div id=3Dygrp-msg><div id=3Dygrp-text><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>Shoul=
d you wish you could always insert the pink cable in an outer jacket
anyway=
. Just be careful to seal it at the ends such that it
doesn't r=
etain water. I even think there are some partially
flexible met=
allised sheaths that could held reduce magnetic interference if
earthed.&nb=
sp; Don't ask me to suggest one though. If
the mains cab=
le is an armoured one then its surrounded by a metal earthed braid anyway
w=
hich will help with both interference and isolation.
<br><br>Depending on e=
ase of access you might consider running a spare pink cable too.
I ha=
ve a similar situation where I didn't do this and later wanted to add
C-Bus=
to the 100 Mbit/s Ethernet bearing CAT5e. In frustration and
clutchi=
ng my rabbits foot I tried utilising the spare conductors within
the =
CAT5e cable for C-Bus but it didn't
work.<br><br>K<br><br>On 12/06/2016 10:=
29, Tim Hawes <a href=3D"mailto:timsyahoo@xxxxxxx";>timsyahoo@googlem=
ail.com</a> [ukha_d]
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote
style=3D'margin=
-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>Gents, <o:p></o:p=
></p><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DM=
soNormal>Thank you very much for your
replies. <o:p></o:p></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal>The cat5 cable(s) will be for regular data
so I can=
get Sonos in the shed, or rather for the patio in
front. <o:p></o:p><=
/p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The appeal of the
clipsal cable was for =
it's sheath rating and it's good to know it's ok for the 10m length, plus
(=
I will assume) some looping through 3 junction boxes along the
way.<o:p></o=
:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
c=
lass=3DMsoNormal>I've also found the pics of the ducting &
junction box=
es I put in - it was only 9 years
ago...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><a href=3D"http://www.fircones.co.uk/ha/garden2.htm";>http://ww=
w.fircones.co.uk/ha/garden2.htm</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMso=
Normal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:=
p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
c=
lass=3DMsoNormal>Tim.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><=
o:p> </o:p></p><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>On 12 June 2016 at 08:45, Pau=
l Gale <a href=3D"mailto:groups2@xxxxxxx";>groups2@xxxxxxx=
</a> [ukha_d] <<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
target=3D"_blan=
k">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal=
>Cat5E for data (gigabit) might be a different matter though over 10m
next =
to power (not that you asked for that!) - I'd imagine the data on C-Bus is
=
going to be pretty low
bandwidth?<br><br>Paul.<br>-----Original Message----=
-<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx=
</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx=
om</a>]<br>Sent: 11 June 2016 19:28<br>To: Tim Hawes
<a href=3D"mailto:tims=
yahoo@xxxxxxx">timsyahoo@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] <<a
href=3D"=
mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>><br>Subject:
R=
e: [ukha_d] Clipsal pink Cat5 and mains cable<br><br>On Sat, 11
Jun 2016, T=
im Hawes <a href=3D"mailto:timsyahoo@xxxxxxx";>timsyahoo@xxxxxxx=
om</a> [ukha_d] wrote:<br><br>> The description
for the pink cable says:=
<br>> "A second feature is that the cable may for
short runs be rou=
ted into<br>> a switchboard close to mains
cable."<br><br>It should=
be fine running the C-Bus pink cable close to live mains
cables.<br><br>Th=
e reason why it is not normally recommended is that an active power cable
i=
nduces a current (as interference) on nearby cables but the CAT5e
arrangeme=
nt should minimise that. Also, the pink C-Bus cable sheath is mains rated
s=
o should be fine having it close to power
cables.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Kw=
ong Li<br><a href=3D"mailto:li@xxxxxxx";>li@xxxxxxx</a><br>Laser
Busines=
s Systems Ltd.<br><a href=3D"http://www.laser.com";
target=3D"_blank">http:/=
/www.laser.com</a><br><br><br>------------------------------------<br>Poste=
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