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Should you wish you could always insert the pink cable in an outer
jacket anyway. Just be careful to seal it at the ends such that it
doesn't retain water. I even think there are some partially flexible
metallised sheaths that could held reduce magnetic interference if
earthed. Don't ask me to suggest one though. If the mains cable is
an armoured one then its surrounded by a metal earthed braid anyway
which will help with both interference and isolation.
Depending on ease of access you might consider running a spare pink
cable too. I have a similar situation where I didn't do this and later
wanted to add C-Bus to the 100 Mbit/s Ethernet bearing CAT5e. In
frustration and clutching my rabbits foot I tried utilising the spare
conductors within the CAT5e cable for C-Bus but it didn't work.
K
On 12/06/2016 10:29, Tim Hawes timsyahoo@xxxxxxx [ukha_d] wrote:
>
>
> Gents,
>
> Thank you very much for your replies.
> The cat5 cable(s) will be for regular data so I can get Sonos in the
> shed, or rather for the patio in front.
> The appeal of the clipsal cable was for it's sheath rating and it's
> good to know it's ok for the 10m length, plus (I will assume) some
> looping through 3 junction boxes along the way.
>
> I've also found the pics of the ducting & junction boxes I put in
- it
> was only 9 years ago...
> http://www.fircones.co.uk/ha/garden2.htm
>
>
> Cheers,
> Tim.
>
> On 12 June 2016 at 08:45, Paul Gale groups2@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:groups2@xxxxxxx> [ukha_d]
<ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> Cat5E for data (gigabit) might be a different matter though over
> 10m next to power (not that you asked for that!) - I'd imagine the
> data on C-Bus is going to be pretty low bandwidth?
>
> Paul.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
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> Sent: 11 June 2016 19:28
> To: Tim Hawes timsyahoo@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:timsyahoo@xxxxxxx> [ukha_d]
<ukha_d@xxxxxxx
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> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Clipsal pink Cat5 and mains cable
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> On Sat, 11 Jun 2016, Tim Hawes timsyahoo@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:timsyahoo@xxxxxxx> [ukha_d]
wrote:
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> > The description for the pink cable says:
> > "A second feature is that the cable may for short runs
be routed
> into
> > a switchboard close to mains cable."
>
> It should be fine running the C-Bus pink cable close to live mains
> cables.
>
> The reason why it is not normally recommended is that an active
> power cable induces a current (as interference) on nearby cables
> but the CAT5e arrangement should minimise that. Also, the pink
> C-Bus cable sheath is mains rated so should be fine having it
> close to power cables.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kwong Li
> li@xxxxxxx <mailto:li@xxxxxxx>
> Laser Business Systems Ltd.
> http://www.laser.com
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Should you wish you could
always insert
the pink cable in an outer jacket anyway.  Just be
careful to
seal it at the ends such that it doesn't retain water. I even
think there are some partially flexible metallised sheaths that
could held reduce magnetic interference if earthed. Don't ask
me
to suggest one though.   If the mains
cable is an armoured one
then its surrounded by a metal earthed braid anyway which will
help with both interference and isolation. <br>
<br>
Depending on ease of access you might consider running a spare
pink cable too. I have a similar situation where I didn't do
this
and later wanted to add C-Bus to the 100 Mbit/s Ethernet bearing
CAT5e. In frustration and clutching my rabbits footÂ
I tried
utilising the spare conductors within the CAT5e cable for C-Bus
but it didn't work.<br>
<br>
K<br>
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On 12/06/2016 10:29, Tim Hawes <a
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<div dir="ltr">Gents,
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<div>Thank you very much for your replies. </div>
<div>The cat5 cable(s) will be for regular data so I can get
Sonos in the shed, or rather for the patio in
front. </div>
<div>The appeal of the clipsal cable was for it's sheath rating
and it's good to know it's ok for the 10m length, plus (I will
assume) some looping through 3 junction boxes along the way.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I've also found the pics of the ducting & junction
boxes I put in - it was only 9 years ago...</div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Tim.</div>
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Gale <a
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wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Cat5E for
data (gigabit) might be a different matter though over 10m
next to power (not that you asked for that!) - I'd imagine
the data on C-Bus is going to be pretty low bandwidth?<br>
<br>
Paul.<br>
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Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Clipsal pink Cat5 and mains cable<br>
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2016, Tim Hawes <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:timsyahoo@xxxxxxx";>timsyahoo@xxxxxxx</a>
[ukha_d] wrote:<br>
<br>
> The description for the pink cable says:<br>
> "A second feature is that the cable may for short
runs be routed into<br>
> a switchboard close to mains cable."<br>
<br>
It should be fine running the C-Bus pink cable close to
live mains cables.<br>
<br>
The reason why it is not normally recommended is that an
active power cable induces a current (as interference) on
nearby cables but the CAT5e arrangement should minimise
that. Also, the pink C-Bus cable sheath is mains rated so
should be fine having it close to power cables.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Kwong Li<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:li@xxxxxxx";>li@xxxxxxx</a><br>
Laser Business Systems Ltd.<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.laser.com";
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