Re: Photos of Home Automation

["Rob Iles" <rob.iles@xxxxxxxxx>]

For PC Control, there's also the Harmony 2007 CBUS Component - -
requires a
PAC (USB PC Interface to CBUS Network).  As with all Harmony Components, it
provides full interaction with Harmony Core - so, for example, X10, Dupline
or ByeByeStandby events can trigger Cbus events, and vice versa.

Additionally, all Harmony GUIs (Windows, Web, MCE, PDA/Mobile Phone) - will
update simultaneously to reflect true state of device(s).

(Yes, Ive been *very* involved with Harmony :) )

Rob


2008/7/19 Paul Gale <groups2@xxxxxxx>:

> There's also a very good wireless gateway available that then opens up
the
> use of wireless switches and lamp dimmer modules etc - good for retro
fit or
> areas that don't have a 'pink' network!
>
> Paul.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > Of Ben McCormack
> > Sent: 19 July 2008 12:14
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Photos of Home Automation
> >
> > Wayne
> >
> > Just to add to the other comments
> >
> > > By this same thought - if you wanted to say add another
switch - find
> > > the nearest pink cable, break into it and add the switch?
(thereby
> > not
> > > having to run another pink cable back to node0?)
> >
> > 100% Correct
> >
> > s the others have said you can get various interfaces to cbus - I
have
> > chosen to link cbus to the Comfort alarm system, yesterday I got
the 2
> > talking and now when a zone on the alarm goes off (ie PIR detects
> > someone) and light in a room comes on. To me being able to do
> > something like this is a basic building block.
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > On 19 Jul 2008, at 10:22, Wayne wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for that Ben,
> > > Hope you didnt mind :)
> > >
> > > If I'm understanding this all then, the star topology is
only for the
> > > connections of the 240v side of things where each comes back
to the
> > > control unit, any 'switch' or cbus controller then sits on
this (and
> > I
> > > guess this is where the name comes from) cbus 'lan' - almost
like the
> > > old ethernet coax networking - wouldn't at all surprise me
if you had
> > > terminators at each end of the 'pink' network :)
> > > By this same thought - if you wanted to say add another
switch - find
> > > the nearest pink cable, break into it and add the switch?
(thereby
> > not
> > > having to run another pink cable back to node0?)
> > >
> > > Just back to the kit list - how many separate light circuits
could
> > > that
> > > dimmer handle?
> > >
> > > I guess to program this from your armchair so to speak is
like
> > > creating
> > > virtual links based on events from switches - 'switch gets
pressed in
> > > kitchen -> toggle controller 1 - output 1 and output 2
(two lights in
> > > kitchen :))' and I guess on the same event - these events
could get
> > > fired from the lan interface as well - pc control etc (
'dial in to
> > > home
> > > asterisk phone system with mobile - input pin - turn on
lights /
> > > heating
> > > ?' - warm when we get home :) )
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > > Wayne.
> > >
> > > Ben McCormack wrote:
> > > > Wayne
> > > >
> > > > Let me try to answer those questions for you
> > > >
> > > > 1st thing - Cbus does not have a central 'brain' each
cbus units
> > > knows
> > > > about the others and how they are programmed.
> > > >
> > > > Top left hand units are for future expansion
> > > >
> > > > Top Middle is a larger cbus dimmer
> > > >
> > > > Bottom middle with 2 pink cables is the cbus to
ethernet box - This
> > > > allows me to program cbus from my armchair
> > > >
> > > > Yes there is a breaker for each circuit that is
switched
> > > >
> > > > The Pink cable loops in and out of each cbus unit for
cbus
> > > communication
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So lets wire up a single room with 1 Light and 1 switch
> > > >
> > > > 1 Twin and earth Wire from Light back to cbus modules
that you see
> > > top
> > > > right
> > > > 1 pink cbus cable looped through the switch
> > > > Thats all really - Took me ages to get my head around
it
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Right bottom half of the panels
> > > >
> > > > Left Hand side - Node Zero distribution board fed from
the main
> > > > downstairs consumer unit about 25m away - Fed using the
think black
> > > > cable you can see pictures of. Fed from 62 amp breaker
downstairs.
> > > > This will be used to power other odds and sods in the
area
> > > >
> > > > Bottom Right - 2 Comfort Alarm Panels also have
ethernet capability
> > > > and connect to cbus
> > > >
> > > > At the moment I am just planning to switch lighting
nothing more
> > yet
> > > >
> > > > Any other questions then fire away
> > > >
> > > > Ben
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 17 Jul 2008, at 18:23, Wayne wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Hiya Ben,
> > > >> Can I be a complete noob with this and ask some
real basic (and
> > > >> nosey!)
> > > >> questions . :)
> > > >>
> > > >> Looking at http://flickr.com/photos/thinkinghouse/2674566591/
(the
> > > >> overview of node0)
> > > >>
> > > >> Going across the top These look like a bigger
version of a
> > > >> distribution
> > > >> panel - I guess the ones on the left give a nice
lot of expansion!
> > > >> being
> > > >> as there is nothing in there yet?
> > > >> The cbus box in the middle - is this the brains to
it all? I guess
> > > >> this
> > > >> is the bit you plug your lan into and get at it via
ip?
> > > >> With the boxes on the right - do you have a breaker
per each
> > > 'thing'
> > > >> that gets switched? do you /need/ those or are the
little control
> > > >> panel
> > > >> strips overly sensitive?
> > > >> Looks like there are 16 breakers in the top of each
of those
> > panels
> > > >> but
> > > >> the right most has two controllers what's the
difference?
> > > >> Am I right in thinking that each of the cbus strips
that are in
> > > each
> > > >> panel is just using a cat5 patch lead to plug back
to the brain
> > > unit
> > > >> (I
> > > >> cant tell what that little box is under the brain
is or where its
> > > >> hooked
> > > >> to).
> > > >>
> > > >> If this is the 'control centre' for it all - what
type of wiring
> > is
> > > >> needed from a switch to turn on a light? again, all
wired
> > > individually
> > > >> back to the brain? (star topology?)
> > > >>
> > > >> The boxes to the lower right and lower middle -
these are the
> > alarm
> > > >> panels? - nuff said there :) (although - do these
have a lan
> > > interface
> > > >> as well?)
> > > >>
> > > >> Lower left - looks like a regular distribution
panel, any reason
> > > for
> > > >> that with all the other stuff up there? What size
feed is coming
> > up
> > > >> from
> > > >> your main house board (I've got a spare 32amp
breaker itching to
> > go
> > > >> somewhere!)
> > > >>
> > > >> Are you just switching lighting with all this or
can you do
> > > regular 13
> > > >> amp sockets as well?
> > > >>
> > > >> Sorry for the grilling - just trying to get my head
around how
> > > you go
> > > >> about designing one of these things and how it all
plugs together.
> > > >> Hope you don't mind :-)
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >> Wayne.
> > > >>
> > > >> Ben McCormack wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> All
> > > >>>
> > > >>> As promised here are the photos from of the
building of my node
> > > zero
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Luckily I have a large wall in a large loft
that is perfect for
> > > node
> > > >>> zero. So I was able to spread things out and
try and lay them out
> > > >>> neatly.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Sorry the photos are not tagged but I am sure
most of you will
> > > >>> recognise most items
> > > >>>
> > > >>> So far we have
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Zone Zero Consumer Unit
> > > >>> Some cbus Modules (Loads of expansion for
later)
> > > >>> 2 Comfort Panels
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Now comes the best bit - All of this technology
and I am now
> > > able 2
> > > >>> switch the lights in 2 rooms on and off via
cbus!!!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://flickr.com/photos/thinkinghouse/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Enjoy
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Ben
> > > >>>
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