RE: Hometronic Question

["Paul Gale" <groups2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

You can get wireless input and output modules for Hometronic - I'm
going to simply have Comfort (or maybe HomeVision) set an output when the
alarm state changes (away or night to start with). Hometronic then sets a
'lifestyle' to knock back temperatures etc.

A lifestyle is a set of override temperatures for any number of zones.
These remain in effect until the lifestyle is cancelled (remotely via the
input module) or for a certain time period (if set from the Hometronic
manager).

I may have to use HV for this as I'd want the heating to still come on at
the right temp in the morning though after a night mode, so a timed output
off would be needed. For night mode, it's only really the time of going to
bed that needs to change and at that time I want the heating to fall back
to night temps (rather than having the heating drop back later at night if
still up and watching a film etc if it's on a simple time schedule).

Apparently the web interfaces (with RS232 OR xml control with the newer
interface) allow much more sophisticated control and reporting - i.e. you
can get temperature reporting and with the latest interface you can also
change the schedules. Changing the schedules would be quite good as
potentially HV could do this I think.

Anyway - these are my thoughts so far as I've not connected up the input
module yet - will happen in a few weeks possibly when the new Node0 is
fully up and running.

Paul.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Ben McCormack
> Sent: 13 April 2008 23:24
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Hometronic Question
>
> Paul
>
> I am currently trying to plan a whole house renovation and was looking
> at the following
>
> Lighting : CBUS
> Heating : Hometronic
> Alarm : Comfort
>
> Now I know that Comfort and CBUS will talk to each other quite
happily.
>
> So how are you intending to get Hometronic to speak to Comfort?
>
> In an ideal world I would be able to tell Comfort I am going on
> Holiday and then Comfort tells CBUS and turns lights on and off so we
> appear to be at home and then also tells Hometronic that then switches
> onto a Holiday program.
>
>
> Sorry for all of the questions but I am trying to find out the best
> way of interfacing 3 systems. So far I have discounted the following
>
> Heatmiser : Cheap but does not speak to anything else
> CM Zone : Cheap and speaks to Comfort BUT does not allow the room by
> room control I am looking for.
>
> Regards
> Ben
>
> On 13 Apr 2008, at 23:13, Paul Gale wrote:
>
> > Yes I am happy with it - no interfacing yet although I have a
module
> > waiting to be connected to Comfort for basic control (away mode
> > lifestyle, night mode lifestyle etc). There are now two web
server
> > interface modules that Sensible Heat do - but due to the kit
> > involved, they're not cheap :( So it's going to be very difficult
to
> > justify although it would give me ultimate control provided I can
> > get it talking OK with HomeVision/Comfort/xAP etc etc...
> >
> > Paul.
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of Ben McCormack
> >> Sent: 13 April 2008 22:15
> >> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Hometronic Question
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> I guess the big question is are you happy with the system? I
know it
> >> is not cheap.
> >> Another question. Do you interface it with anything else? and
are
> you
> >> using any of the remote control features?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Ben
> >>
> >> On 13 Apr 2008, at 21:59, Paul Gale wrote:
> >>
> >>> They seem OK - well enough separated from the hot rad I
guess - or
> >>> compensating being next to it. What I've not tried is
testing the
> >>> temp of the room via a thermometer etc to see how it
matches - will
> >>> try that later.
> >>>
> >>> It has taken a while to get used to the system purely as
you can
> set
> >>> as many set points as you want for each zone - the house
has been
> >>> fairly warm and over time we've tuned it to suit.
> >>>
> >>> Paul.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> >>>> Behalf
> >>>> Of Ben McCormack
> >>>> Sent: 13 April 2008 21:57
> >>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Hometronic Question
> >>>>
> >>>> Paul
> >>>>
> >>>> This may be me being stupid but how well do the
thermostats work
> >> when
> >>>> they are connected to a heat source?
> >>>>
> >>>> Ben
> >>>>
> >>>> On 13 Apr 2008, at 21:46, Paul Gale wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Simple answer - yes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Each radiator controller reports the temp back to
the hometronic
> >>>>> manager although you can also have separate
thermostats if
> needed.
> >>>>> Several radiators can be in a single zone too.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I now have all the rads in the house connected in
this way and a
> 3
> >>>>> zone UFH system and an interface to an aircon
unit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Paul.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> >>>>>> Behalf
> >>>>>> Of Ben McCormack
> >>>>>> Sent: 13 April 2008 20:49
> >>>>>> To: UKHA Mailinglist
> >>>>>> Subject: [ukha_d] Hometronic Question
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> All
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I am looking into an automated heating system
that gives zoned
> >>>>>> control
> >>>>>> to 16 Raidiators and 10 rooms. Honeywell
Hometronic seems to
> give
> >>>>>> me
> >>>>>> this.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have a simple question. Where are the room
thermostats? Is
> this
> >>>>>> provided by the HR80UK on each radiator?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>> Ben
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