Re: Hometronic Question

["Ben McCormack" <yahoogroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Paul - Have you looked at the HX10? It looks like it will take the
input from a relay or X10.

Ben


--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Paul Gale" <groups2@...> wrote:
>
> You can get wireless input and output modules for Hometronic - I'm
going to simply
have Comfort (or maybe HomeVision) set an output when the alarm state
changes (away or
night to start with). Hometronic then sets a 'lifestyle' to knock back
temperatures etc.
>
> A lifestyle is a set of override temperatures for any number of zones.
These remain in
effect until the lifestyle is cancelled (remotely via the input module) or
for a certain time
period (if set from the Hometronic manager).
>
> I may have to use HV for this as I'd want the heating to still come on
at the right temp in
the morning though after a night mode, so a timed output off would be
needed. For night
mode, it's only really the time of going to bed that needs to change and at
that time I want
the heating to fall back to night temps (rather than having the heating
drop back later at
night if still up and watching a film etc if it's on a simple time
schedule).
>
> Apparently the web interfaces (with RS232 OR xml control with the
newer interface)
allow much more sophisticated control and reporting - i.e. you can get
temperature
reporting and with the latest interface you can also change the schedules.
Changing the
schedules would be quite good as potentially HV could do this I think.
>
> Anyway - these are my thoughts so far as I've not connected up the
input module yet -
will happen in a few weeks possibly when the new Node0 is fully up and
running.
>
> Paul.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > Of Ben McCormack
> > Sent: 13 April 2008 23:24
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Hometronic Question
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > I am currently trying to plan a whole house renovation and was
looking
> > at the following
> >
> > Lighting : CBUS
> > Heating : Hometronic
> > Alarm : Comfort
> >
> > Now I know that Comfort and CBUS will talk to each other quite
happily.
> >
> > So how are you intending to get Hometronic to speak to Comfort?
> >
> > In an ideal world I would be able to tell Comfort I am going on
> > Holiday and then Comfort tells CBUS and turns lights on and off
so we
> > appear to be at home and then also tells Hometronic that then
switches
> > onto a Holiday program.
> >
> >
> > Sorry for all of the questions but I am trying to find out the
best
> > way of interfacing 3 systems. So far I have discounted the
following
> >
> > Heatmiser : Cheap but does not speak to anything else
> > CM Zone : Cheap and speaks to Comfort BUT does not allow the room
by
> > room control I am looking for.
> >
> > Regards
> > Ben
> >
> > On 13 Apr 2008, at 23:13, Paul Gale wrote:
> >
> > > Yes I am happy with it - no interfacing yet although I have
a module
> > > waiting to be connected to Comfort for basic control (away
mode
> > > lifestyle, night mode lifestyle etc). There are now two web
server
> > > interface modules that Sensible Heat do - but due to the kit
> > > involved, they're not cheap :( So it's going to be very
difficult to
> > > justify although it would give me ultimate control provided
I can
> > > get it talking OK with HomeVision/Comfort/xAP etc etc...
> > >
> > > Paul.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> > >> Behalf
> > >> Of Ben McCormack
> > >> Sent: 13 April 2008 22:15
> > >> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > >> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Hometronic Question
> > >>
> > >> Paul
> > >>
> > >> I guess the big question is are you happy with the
system? I know it
> > >> is not cheap.
> > >> Another question. Do you interface it with anything
else? and are
> > you
> > >> using any of the remote control features?
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >> Ben
> > >>
> > >> On 13 Apr 2008, at 21:59, Paul Gale wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> They seem OK - well enough separated from the hot
rad I guess - or
> > >>> compensating being next to it. What I've not tried
is testing the
> > >>> temp of the room via a thermometer etc to see how it
matches - will
> > >>> try that later.
> > >>>
> > >>> It has taken a while to get used to the system
purely as you can
> > set
> > >>> as many set points as you want for each zone - the
house has been
> > >>> fairly warm and over time we've tuned it to suit.
> > >>>
> > >>> Paul.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> > >>>> Behalf
> > >>>> Of Ben McCormack
> > >>>> Sent: 13 April 2008 21:57
> > >>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Hometronic Question
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Paul
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This may be me being stupid but how well do the
thermostats work
> > >> when
> > >>>> they are connected to a heat source?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ben
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 13 Apr 2008, at 21:46, Paul Gale wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Simple answer - yes.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Each radiator controller reports the temp
back to the hometronic
> > >>>>> manager although you can also have separate
thermostats if
> > needed.
> > >>>>> Several radiators can be in a single zone
too.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I now have all the rads in the house
connected in this way and a
> > 3
> > >>>>> zone UFH system and an interface to an
aircon unit.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Paul.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> > >>>>>> Behalf
> > >>>>>> Of Ben McCormack
> > >>>>>> Sent: 13 April 2008 20:49
> > >>>>>> To: UKHA Mailinglist
> > >>>>>> Subject: [ukha_d] Hometronic Question
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> All
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I am looking into an automated heating
system that gives zoned
> > >>>>>> control
> > >>>>>> to 16 Raidiators and 10 rooms. Honeywell
Hometronic seems to
> > give
> > >>>>>> me
> > >>>>>> this.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I have a simple question. Where are the
room thermostats? Is
> > this
> > >>>>>> provided by the HR80UK on each radiator?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Regards
> > >>>>>> Ben
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