RE: Re: [OT] CCTV Rant

["David Irwin \(Home\)" <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I have had a quick look round about CCTV because I remember having to
look
up the policies on CCTV for work, and thought you may appreciate a few
insights.

Basically the law (as I understand it - I am not a legal expert here)
differentiates between static and active CCTV systems. If your system
cannot
be remotely zoomed or moved and you are recording them only for the
purposes
of providing images to the police or other law enforcement agency then you
do not need to register the camera under DPA.

Basically the DPA is only concerned where you are able specifically
tracking/targeting an individual (such as a member of staff or customer in
a
shop).

There are a couple of links below which were of great use to me.

Dave

Information Comissioners (CCTV
http://tinyurl.com/3x77ox

CCTV Advisory Service
http://tinyurl.com/3dlcf9

-----Original Message-----
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Mal Lansell
Sent: 01 November 2007 11:24
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: [ukha_d] Re: [OT] CCTV Rant

My brother wanted to do the same thing but the police told him that
a camera covering the road / pavement outside his house would have
to be registered under the Data Protection Act.

As far as I've been able to discern, though, that is complete
horsesh*t.

The trouble is that it is much easier for the plod to play safe,
rather than actually check their "facts".

Mal





--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Andy Whitfield"
<andywhitfield2002@...> wrote:
>
> I've always been under the belief you can film in a public place
> (I.E. the road, pavement, etc) but not anyone's private property
> (I.E. driveway, front garden, house, etc).  If your camera
captured
> someone's house windows you could be accused of voyeurism.
> Set your camera just to cover your own property and the
> road/pavement.
> Then ask the police if that is legal.
> If they so no then ask how is it legal for the council to have
cctv?
> Point out you'll make a complaint if they tell you wrong.  I bet
> they radio in for advice!  ;-)
> If they still say no then maybe go and see your MP and ask him/her.
> Andy
>
> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Keith Doxey" <ukha@> wrote:
> >
> > ARRGGHHHH !!!!
> >
> > Just had the police round because we have been targeted by local
> yobs for
> > several months, things like egging and ripping out flowers.
> >
> > This week they started with fireworks and because tonight is
> halloween I set
> > up a camera looking out the front to record everything that
> happened.
> >
> > Sure enough at 7:30 they launched a rocket directly at the
house.
> Called the
> > police on 999 and about 40 minutes later two community support
> officers came
> > round.
> >
> > Looked back at the DVD and 2 minutes before saw the two little
> sods walk
> > past the house, then they came back laid a rocket on the road
> pointing at
> > the house, lit it and ran off. Luckily it hit the kerb and
stayed
> there
> > until it exploded.
> >
> > They were clearly visible and instantly recognised by the police
> but I was
> > told that the DVD may not be any good becuase my camera is
illegal
> because
> > it covers the road and the fronts of the neighbours houses. I am
> only
> > allowed to cover my garden and front door in which case it would
> have
> > captured sweet FA.
> >
> > Non of the neighbours have complained, in fact one once asked if
> my camera
> > had picked up an attack on her house. Aparently I am infinging
> peoples civil
> > liberties but it is Ok for people to launch high explosives
> against me !!!!
> >
> > What about the cameras around town.... how come they dont
infringe
> peoples
> > civil liberties ???
> >
> > What is the F***ing point of CCTV if you cant use it to protect
> your home
> > and family.
> >
> > GGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Not Pleased !!!!
> >
>