Re: Swiming pool alarm

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    Robert,

I really appreciate your suggestions. Your ideas for integrating the GRI
pool alarm with the ELK system looks like a very workable solution.  That's
exactly the type of useful help I am looking for. I'll swing by your site
and take a look at it. Keep up the great input.

Dennis
"Robert L Bass" <no-sales-spam@bassburglaralarms> wrote in message
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>> Thanks for the reply...
>
> You're most welcome.
>
>> While I would prefer to comply with the
>> code, as I indicated, this doesn't appear
>> to be an option and still live the way I
>> want to...
>
> There's always a balance between personal
> freedom and community good. I understand
> the reasoning for the law and frankly, I make
> a lot of money selling pool alarms in my
> online store. They're a very popular item.
> Nonetheless, I think the law is poorly written.
> I'd like to see some flexibility for families
> without small children. That's not likely to
> happen.
>
>> I had planned to do exactly as you
>> described, but was hoping to find an
>> alternative, code compliant solution.
>
> There are ways that you can combine a
> UL listed pool alarm with the ELK M1G
> system.  You'd still have at least one
> of the pool alarm units near the door.
>
> GRI's 289 series has a switched voltage
> output that can be used to trigger a
> burglary zone on the ELK-M1G, eliminating
> the need for duplicate burglary and pool
> alarm sensors and wiring on the door(s).
>
> There's also a "reset" output that trips
> when someone pushes the button on the
> 289.  That can be wired to another "zone"
> (sensing circuit) on the ELK to let the HA
> system know you want to exit.  You could
> use that to do things like bypassing the
> security to allow you to access the lanai
> without disarming the alarm, say when
> walking the dog at night or whatever.
>
> These are external connections and not
> modifications to the UL listed pool alarm
> so the inspector shouldn't have any issues
> with them.
>
> It could also do other cool things like
> turn on the pool and lanai lights if you
> touch the button after dark.
>
>> I even sent a message to ELK describing
>> the situation in hopes that it would get
>> them interested in getting the needed UL
>> certification.
>
> As noted, the M1G carries a UL sticker for
> a residential alarm.  Unfortunately, the
> procedure for obtaining any UL listing is
> time consuming and very expensive. Unless
> Wade believes he can sell a lot more M1G
> systems by doing so he's unlikely to apply
> for additional listing.
>
>> I really hate investing money in something
>> like a separate pool alarm, just to meet
>> a poorly implemented code, just to have
>> to disconnect it later and replace it with a
>> more workable, but not code compliant,
>> solution.
>
> I understand.  I have no small children either.
> However, we have lots of parties and some
> of our friends bring little ones so for us the
> pool alarm is a necessity.  There were holes
> in the original lanai floor to install a pool fence
> but those things are such an eyesore that
> we don't want one.  I had them paved over
> when we redid the lanai with paver bricks
> last year.
>
>> Again, thanks for your input.
>
> No problem.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
>
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