Re: Swiming pool alarm

["Dennis" <djr-google.djrlar@xxxxxxxx>]

Robert,

Thanks for the reply.  While I would prefer to comply with the code,
as I indicated, this doesn't appear to be an option and still live the
way I want to. I had planned to do exactly as you described, but was
hoping to find an alternative, code compliant solution.  I even sent a
message to ELK describing the situation in hopes that it would get
them interested in getting the needed UL certification.  I really hate
investing money in something like a separate pool alarm, just to meet
a poorly implemented code, just to have to disconnect it later and
replace it with a more workable, but not code compliant, solution.
Again, thanks for your input.

Dennis Raher


Robert L Bass wrote:
> >I am going to be installing the ELK M1
> > Gold system, and was hoping I could
> > use it's partitioning capability to fill the
> > requirement for a pool alarm system
> > that is required.
>
> Dennis,
>
> Unfortunately, you probably can't do it.
> The code doesn't only demand that the
> pool alarm meet UL2017 specs.  It has
> to actually carry the UL2017 sticker. The
> ELK-M1G is an excellent controller but
> it does not carry the proper listing for a
> swimming pool alarm.
>
> Some inspectors may give permission
> to use a non-listed device but most won't.
>
> I understand the reasoning behind
> removing the alarm after the inspection.
> Many people have no children of their
> own and don't plan to have guests with
> small kids.  To them the pool alarm law
> is a nuisance.  Unfortunately, the law
> came about due to numerous tragedies.
> Like many other things the law tries to
> protect by laying down an inflexible
> requirement.  I think there should be a
> degree of flexibility but the legislature
> didn't consult me about it.  :^)
>
> I can tell you what some folks I know
> have done about this.  They install
> sensors on the doors and windows
> which face the pool area, connect them
> to the pool alarm leaving a loop of
> extra cable in the wall behind the alarm.
> An additional cable runs from the pool
> alarm to the HA or burglar alarm control
> panel.  After inspection the wire is con-
> nected to the HA or alarm system and
> the pool alarm is powered down or
> even removed.
>
> I can't exactly recommend such a
> procedure.  I can only tell you that is
> how some folks do it.  What you do in
> your own castle is well, you know.  :^)
>
> By the way, you can run several door
> and window sensors to a single pool
> alarm to save some of the cost.  That's
> also less ugly than boxes at every
> opening.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
>
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