Re: Random ALL ON Signals

[nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Dave Houston)]

I'm not very familiar with the ACT TI103 interface but IIRC it will
automatically retransmit eternally when it senses a collision. At least it
did that when introduced - perhaps that was changed later. Do you know
whether the log entries are made when the command is sent to the TI103 or
are they logged when the TI103 reports a successful transmission?

It might be interesting to compare the logs and the AT004 log to see whether
they differ.

"The Taz" <TazsNews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>They are a total mixture. I have some two way modules, some hard wired
>appliance modules, several wall switch modules.
>etc..
>and yes, the ALL ON occured between the 10:05:00 and the 10:05:13
>becuase the 10:05:13 All OFF event was me Manually pressing the all off to
>turn everything off
>i have the at004 currently logging all data frames, but i think you are
>right, since it didnt appear in my homeseer log, i am not going to get any
>record of the event..
>Im going to do it for the heck of it, and then switch to noise logging
>ill keep everyone posted..
>
>
>"Dave Houston" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:4554937f.503748265@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> OK. Are all of the devices affected on wall switches, plug-in modules, a
>> mixture?
>>
>> Some X-10 made wall switches and some plug-in modules can be directly
>> affected by spike type transients and the microcontrollers in them can
>> also
>> be reset by a dip in supply voltage. Until I replaced the (standard)
>> switch,
>> one of my LM14A modules would frequently turn off whenever I turned off an
>> old fluorescent in one bathroom. The spike from the collapsing magnetic
>> field of the ballast was the culprit. A relay type of switch in the
>> bathroom
>> cured it. Others have found that motors starting/stopping can have the
>> same
>> effect.
>>
>> I think your log eliminates the possibility that there is a valid X-10
>> signal on the powerlines (and as I noted there is no All Units ON
>> command).
>> Do you have anything that happens at the time of the mystery events? The
>> change of seasons frequently exposes something like an AC compressor or
>> furnace blower as a noise source.
>>
>> It might be helpful if the AT004 can record line voltage to see if there's
>> a
>> dip that correlates with the events.
>>
>> I'm not clear on one point. Did the All ON event occur between 10:05:00
>> and
>> 10:05:13?
>>
>> "The Taz" <TazsNews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>Ok heres the weird thing, it just happened last night..
>>>I checked the logs on my home seer and heres what i got...
>>>  11/9/2006 10:04:30 PM   X10 Received  B3 (Hallway Light) B Off
>>>  11/9/2006 10:04:39 PM   X10 Received  A12 (Kitchen Water Cooler) A Off
>>>  11/9/2006 10:04:40 PM   X10 Received  A12 (Kitchen Water Cooler) A Off
>>>  11/9/2006 10:04:46 PM   X10 Received  A7 (Living Room Table Lamp) A Off
>>>  11/9/2006 10:05:00 PM   Info  Event Trigger "Front Door Bug Light off
>>> nights"
>>>  11/9/2006 10:05:00 PM   Info  Device: Outside Front Door Bug Light (C3)
>>> OFF
>>>  11/9/2006 10:05:13 PM   X10 Received  F All Units Off
>>>
>>>You can see my F ALL units off code after it happened...
>>>but nothing absolutly nothing in the logs show anything to turn everything
>>>on.,
>>>And i am a little unsure how to use the AT004, but i am going to try and
>>>set
>>>it up this weeekend.
>>>and thats the weirdest part of it, its eveything, Lamps, Appliances, alike
>>>all turn on, At the exact same moment, its not a Sequencial thing, its all
>>>at once.. lights, and a/c's and fans, etc..
>>>I have the following set up in my home
>>>Im Running homeseer
>>>using a ACT TI103 interface...
>>>I also have a Interface/Coupler
>>>Homepro Amplified X10 Coupler Repeater W/ Repeated Signal Detection
>>>http://www.smarthome.com/4821ac.html
>>>In addition to a
>>>      Leviton Whole-House Surge Protector
>>>
>>>http://www.smarthome.com/4860.html
>>>Which i know has no affect on x10.
>>>But that is my set up, I also have one or two RF transceivers i dont
>>>recall
>>>but im pretty sure  NONE of them are on the F house code..
>>>i use a few wireless motion sensors, thats why i use the rf transeivers,
>>>but
>>>they are on a different house code, im pretty sure.
>>>I will try and set up the AT004 this weekend, and keep everyone posted,
>>>any info on this would be awsome though.
>>>P.S Does any one have in use the
>>>Homepro Amplified X10 Coupler Repeater W/ Repeated Signal Detection
>>>http://www.smarthome.com/4821ac.html
>>>and can share with me the ideal dip switch configuration?!
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>Fred
>>>
>>>
>>>"Dave Houston" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>news:4552a22d.376434062@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> "The Taz" <TazsNews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Ok, i got a real good one for everyone out there..
>>>>>I have been using the X10 system for several years, and has grown in my
>>>>>home
>>>>>over the years, and now just about includes all my lights and
>>>>>applinaces..
>>>>>I use Homeseer, for timing and controlling, as well as one or two touch
>>>>>screen controllers.
>>>>>Every so often, lately more then not.
>>>>>At random times, everything on my 'F' Code goes ON!
>>>>>Lilghts, A/C, Fans, Etc..
>>>>>If its on the F code, it turns on...
>>>>>It is driving me nuts..
>>>>>i have a AT004 Tester,
>>>>>but am not even sure where to begin.
>>>>>Anyone ever see this?! or have any idea or any help would be so very
>>>>>much
>>>>>appericaited.
>>>>
>>>> Do the logs from your software show a command at the time of the event?
>>>>
>>>> The AT004 specs say, "Can log noise and frame data over a 24 hour
>>>> period."
>>>> Can you use this to log events?
>>>>
>>>> Do both lamp and appliance modules turn on? (There is no single X-10
>>>> command
>>>> that will activate both light and appliance modules.)
>>>>
>>>> What powerline interface do you use?
>>>>
>>>> What RF transceivers are in use?


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