Re: Kidde "Badger" Universal Control Head

["ABLE1" <nospamhere@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yea, somehow I can envision in my minds eye that the connector is not pushed
on the micro terminals.  May have been a whoops by the installer OR
intentional.  You can draw your own conclusion, which I am sure you already
have.

Applying a low voltage should only prove that NOTHING happens.   What fun
would that be???

A lot of years ago I was inspecting some CO2 fire suppression 4 decks below
the main deck on a Light Guided Missile Cruiser inside a Paint Locker.  I
was with a 1st Class PO (who showing me the ropes) not sure what "we" did
but the alarms went off.  I never went up a ladder through 3 hatches so fast
ever.  LOL  Being in a sealed room with a whole bunch of CO2 is not a good
thing.  After our pulse rate returned to normal we determined it was a false
alarm.   :-)  That night I did a over the side deep 6 on my skivvies some
where in the south pacific.

Les


"RTS" <gafa_usa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Greetings  Les,
> Your link image  matches the one I got on the wall..
> We use to call that style of micro switch  a "cherry switch"   from the
> original  manufacturer  cic  1950..
>
> You'd think if the wires were on a micro switch  I'd be able to read
> something between the common and the N.C.
> But I'm  not reading anything on any pair combo..    That's what's got
> me..
>
> ((for 2 cents  I'd try goosing low voltage on them  to see if a solenoid
> engages  ..    LOL   should make for an interesting few minutes....))
>
> I guess  I'll have to lean on the owner to contact the installer and have
> them ID the correct pair or have them hookup to my ckt..
> We got a local co.  that deals with that brand  but so far  I've not heard
> from them...
>
> Thanks for the insight..
> RTS
>
>
>
>
> "ABLE1"  wrote in message
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>
> RTS,
>
> Based on your meter readings then I would say that the wires are not
> connected inside.  Take a look at this unit on eBay.
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-BADGER-FIRE-SUPPRESSION-SYSTEM-UNIVERSAL-CONTROL-HEAD-KIT-60-120099-001-/380797130128
>
> If you look closely at the pictures you can see the micro switches and the
> wire leads.  The leads have push on nylon connectors on the ends.
>
> This page shows the micro switch terminal configuration.  Not that this
> would be true for ALL micros but it will give you some idea of what you
> should be looking at.
>
> http://pewa.panasonic.com/assets/pcsd/catalog/am5-catalog.pdf
>
> However if the connectors are installed then I would say the following
> would
> be close.
>
> Based on the eBay picture and the terminals you have 2 micros.  The
> connectors are as follows.
>
> Switch 1 the Blue/White wire would be COM and Yellow/White NO and
> Brown/White NC
>
> Switch 2 the Blue wire would be COM and Yellow NO and Brown NC
>
> That may not 100% but I am guessing based on multiple assumptions.
>
> If you do find out for sure please let me know so I can sleep nights.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Les
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "RTS" <gafa_usa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Greetings Les,
>>
>> That's the rub  Les,  the system is armed  and to remove the face cover
>> I'd have to take off the manual trip handle..
>> Not being familiar with the "workings" of this unit  I'd just as soon not
>> take the face off..
>> (I've seen the results of folks  messing)   LOL
>> You may have notice  when viewing those  Goggle searches,  this unit or
>> one like it  had the ability to be triggered electronically.
>> That being the case  I was wondering if this unit is the one for which
>> those wire are for..(electronic trigger)
>>
>> If you find out anything else  let me know..
>> Thanks
>> RTS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "ABLE1"  wrote in message
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>>
>> RTS,
>>
>> I just googled "Badger 60 Universal Control Head"  and found a lot of
>> pictures and install of the unit.  But nothing with wires.  Are you sure
>> of
>> the model number??   Or is this a add on component to the control valve??
>>
>> My suggestion would be to remove the cover and find the micro switch and
>> see
>> what wire is connected to what terminal.  Normally the terminal ID is on
>> the
>> Micro cover at the terminal.  Remove the Micro and manipulate as needed
>> to
>> determine what is going on.
>>
>> Good Luck
>>
>> Les
>>
>>
>>
>> "RTS" <gafa_usa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Looking for a little help  with wire output..
>> Been tasked with the hookup of a Badger 60 Universal Control Head  (Cook
>> Hood Suppression system)
>> to a local Fire Alarm Panel..
>> (alarm when the hood system is activated)
>>
>> UCH  has 6 wires showing,  Yellow, Yellow/stripe, Blue, Blue/stripe,
>> Brown
>> and Brown/stripe..
>>
>> No 2 wires of the set has a continuity  short..
>>
>> Does this unit support connection of a dry contact closure?
>> If so,  which color pair of wires would accomplish this connection?
>>
>> This is a fairly new installation but the installers didn't leave any
>> paper
>> work behind for the owners records..
>> I've been unable to get any help from the manufacturer or their website..
>>
>> Many Thanks for those that can help with this problem..
>>
>> RTS
>>
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