Re: Kidde "Badger" Universal Control Head

["RTS" <gafa_usa@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

HeHe,
I've heard stories  of the airman  who  just couldn't understand what "keep
hand off"   meant..
so one day  it just so happened  he was playing with the release pin on the
whole hanger foam system
when you guessed it,  the pin came out..  LOL
can you just see a 200 x 600  hanger with  20 feet of foam...   LOL
only the tail rudders on the planes was showing..
Everyone got a good bath  that day...

RTS



ABLE1"  wrote in message
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Yea, somehow I can envision in my minds eye that the connector is not pushed
on the micro terminals.  May have been a whoops by the installer OR
intentional.  You can draw your own conclusion, which I am sure you already
have.

Applying a low voltage should only prove that NOTHING happens.   What fun
would that be???

A lot of years ago I was inspecting some CO2 fire suppression 4 decks below
the main deck on a Light Guided Missile Cruiser inside a Paint Locker.  I
was with a 1st Class PO (who showing me the ropes) not sure what "we" did
but the alarms went off.  I never went up a ladder through 3 hatches so fast
ever.  LOL  Being in a sealed room with a whole bunch of CO2 is not a good
thing.  After our pulse rate returned to normal we determined it was a false
alarm.   :-)  That night I did a over the side deep 6 on my skivvies some
where in the south pacific.

Les


"RTS" <gafa_usa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Greetings  Les,
> Your link image  matches the one I got on the wall..
> We use to call that style of micro switch  a "cherry switch"   from the
> original  manufacturer  cic  1950..
>
> You'd think if the wires were on a micro switch  I'd be able to read
> something between the common and the N.C.
> But I'm  not reading anything on any pair combo..    That's what's got


> me..
>
> ((for 2 cents  I'd try goosing low voltage on them  to see if a solenoid
> engages  ..    LOL   should make for an interesting few minutes....))
>
> I guess  I'll have to lean on the owner to contact the installer and have
> them ID the correct pair or have them hookup to my ckt..
> We got a local co.  that deals with that brand  but so far  I've not heard
> from them...
>
> Thanks for the insight..
> RTS
>
>
>
>
> "ABLE1"  wrote in message
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>
> RTS,
>
> Based on your meter readings then I would say that the wires are not
> connected inside.  Take a look at this unit on eBay.
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-BADGER-FIRE-SUPPRESSION-SYSTEM-UNIVERSAL-CONTROL-HEAD-KIT-60-120099-001-/380797130128
>
> If you look closely at the pictures you can see the micro switches and the
> wire leads.  The leads have push on nylon connectors on the ends.
>
> This page shows the micro switch terminal configuration.  Not that this
> would be true for ALL micros but it will give you some idea of what you
> should be looking at.
>
> http://pewa.panasonic.com/assets/pcsd/catalog/am5-catalog.pdf
>
> However if the connectors are installed then I would say the following
> would
> be close.
>
> Based on the eBay picture and the terminals you have 2 micros.  The
> connectors are as follows.
>
> Switch 1 the Blue/White wire would be COM and Yellow/White NO and
> Brown/White NC
>
> Switch 2 the Blue wire would be COM and Yellow NO and Brown NC
>
> That may not 100% but I am guessing based on multiple assumptions.
>
> If you do find out for sure please let me know so I can sleep nights.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Les
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "RTS" <gafa_usa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Greetings Les,
>>
>> That's the rub  Les,  the system is armed  and to remove the face cover
>> I'd have to take off the manual trip handle..
>> Not being familiar with the "workings" of this unit  I'd just as soon not
>> take the face off..
>> (I've seen the results of folks  messing)   LOL
>> You may have notice  when viewing those  Goggle searches,  this unit or
>> one like it  had the ability to be triggered electronically.
>> That being the case  I was wondering if this unit is the one for which
>> those wire are for..(electronic trigger)
>>
>> If you find out anything else  let me know..
>> Thanks
>> RTS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "ABLE1"  wrote in message
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>>
>> RTS,
>>
>> I just googled "Badger 60 Universal Control Head"  and found a lot of
>> pictures and install of the unit.  But nothing with wires.  Are you sure
>> of
>> the model number??   Or is this a add on component to the control valve??
>>
>> My suggestion would be to remove the cover and find the micro switch and
>> see
>> what wire is connected to what terminal.  Normally the terminal ID is on
>> the
>> Micro cover at the terminal.  Remove the Micro and manipulate as needed
>> to
>> determine what is going on.
>>
>> Good Luck
>>
>> Les
>>
>>
>>
>> "RTS" <gafa_usa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Looking for a little help  with wire output..
>> Been tasked with the hookup of a Badger 60 Universal Control Head  (Cook
>> Hood Suppression system)
>> to a local Fire Alarm Panel..
>> (alarm when the hood system is activated)
>>
>> UCH  has 6 wires showing,  Yellow, Yellow/stripe, Blue, Blue/stripe,
>> Brown
>> and Brown/stripe..
>>
>> No 2 wires of the set has a continuity  short..
>>
>> Does this unit support connection of a dry contact closure?
>> If so,  which color pair of wires would accomplish this connection?
>>
>> This is a fairly new installation but the installers didn't leave any
>> paper
>> work behind for the owners records..
>> I've been unable to get any help from the manufacturer or their website..
>>
>> Many Thanks for those that can help with this problem..
>>
>> RTS
>>
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