Re: Fire Alarms Certification

[nick markowitz <nmarkowitz@xxxxxxxxx>]

On May 12, 10:06=A0am, Frank Kurz <t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 12/05/2011 3:47 AM, nick markowitz wrote:
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> > On May 12, 4:57 am, Frank Kurz<t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> =A0wrote:
> >> On 11/05/2011 10:31 PM, G. Morgan wrote:
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> >>> Frank Kurz Wrote:
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> >>>> Patently ridiculous
> >>>> when you consider what the supposed "factory trained" technicians pa=
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> >>>> for properly installed fire alarm panels on four jobs that I know of=
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> >>> I got a Fire-Lite factory certificate, it was a 2 day sales pitch.
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> >> Same here. =A0It also seemed to focus on the MS-9050, didn't even go i=
nto
> >> the use of the downloading software, and didn't provide much in the wa=
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> >> of actual programming instruction (it covered the basics but not the
> >> more complex correlations and on-board communicator set-up, which I wa=
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> >> expecting). =A0It was disappointing. =A0I didn't really learn anything=
 "new"
> >> or what I hadn't already discovered on my own. =A0Earl Muise is also n=
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> >> longer with Honeywell.
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> >> Over the years I've learned to program Edwards, Simplex, Notifier,
> >> Potter, Mircom, and FireLite panels. =A0The new Mircom stuff (FX-350) =
is
> >> nice. =A0I've been involved in programming and commissioning three now=
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> >> It goes head-to-head with Potter and FireLite and actually beats them
> >> out in a few key areas. =A0The main drawback with Potter's PFC-9000 is
> >> that they don't have a ULC Listed interface module for conventional
> >> smokes, the remote NAC module won't do Class "A", and there isn't an
> >> outdoor enclosure for the remote annunciator. =A0The main problem with
> >> FireLite (in Canada particularly) is that they don't have an annunciat=
or
> >> you can mount remote from the panel. =A0For some reason you have to
> >> install it in the same room as the panel, and the maximum length of
> >> conduit allowed between the panel and the annunciator is 12 feet. =A0T=
heir
> >> current annunciator looks really hokey when you have to stack it as we=
ll
> >> (which is pretty well a given for most installations).
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> >> --
> >> Frank Kurzwww.firetechs.net
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> > Firelite is the parent company of notifier know one panel you know the
> > other.
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> According to Acme (a Notifier distributor and the recent recipient of a
> Burning Brick), this is not the case. =A0They would have you believe that
> only "Notifier Certified" techs are allowed to work/program/verify a
> Notifier panel. =A0Balderdash.
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> --
> Frank Kurzwww.firetechs.net

Certified till owner of equipment throws there sorry ass off property
for poor workmanship.
seen plenty of that here.