Re: Here you go housing starts in the dumper

[Jim <alarminex@xxxxxxx>]

On Jan 21, 9:38=A0am, nick markowitz <nmarkow...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Jan 21, 9:19=A0am, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Jan 21, 12:29=A0am, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > On Jan 20, 6:57=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > RHC: You said the majic words Nick !! =A0Residential accounts that =
want
> > > > everything for free are definately NOT my market. The crowd that bu=
y
> > > > phoney "free systems", or don't expect to pay fair market price for=
 a
> > > > system; who don't mind being suckered into overpriced, long term
> > > > contracts, are a significant minority of people who are....(not
> > > > necessarily in this order)....unsophisticated, lower economic "clas=
s",
> > > > poor shoppers, easily suckered by unsophisticated adverstising; sim=
ply
> > > > have no money and won't likely ever have; don't think things throug=
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> > > > past the end of their nose; or are just plain downright stupid !
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> > > > I don't deal with these types of customers from the get go....it's
> > > > pretty easy to send these types packing within a couple of minutes =
of
> > > > starting to talk to them. They usually end up with either ADT or wo=
rse
> > > > yet Alarmforce....
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> > > It's just a lot easier to say that the people who buy these systems
> > > would not be my customers to begin with.
> > > Sometimes, after they've had one of the cheapie systems for awhile,
> > > some of them will become egermeckcated and learn the hard way. Some o=
f
> > > those I get occasionally.
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> > > > So ...yes....comparing the situation where you have to deal with th=
ese
> > > > kinds of =A0customers, versus dealing with commercial accounts, I'd=
 have
> > > > to agree with you....
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> > > > (Damn...after 20 years in this business, I'm starting to get awfull=
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> > > > crusty.....)-
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> > > See? =A0NOWWW you know why I'm so cranky all the time ....!!!
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> > RHC: Naw....you're not cranky, it's just that you (and I) have been in
> > the business so long that we see how absolutely stupid a lot of people
> > can be ! =A0But no matter how much we rant about it, there will always
> > be loads of shoppers who will go this way, and there will always be
> > loads of "money machine" companies like ADT and outright scammers like
> > Alarmforce who will continue to value a customers money over their
> > security.
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> > That's just the "way of the world" I guess....
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> You forgot to mention APX to the list-

Yeah. Have you noticed that now, after they've broken the law,
blatantly lied to consumers, stretched ethics beyond recognition,
given the trade a bad name for a number of years and made millions
doing it......... NOWWWWW they're suckin up to the NBFAA about how
their plan is to now play nice????  And ..... of course the NBFAA
(under their new alias, what ever it is) is holding out their tit,
ready and willing to accept the wayward child into the family.

Boy, I'm sure glad we have an orgaization like that to represent this
trade.