Re: Automatic fire sprinklers

[mleuck <m.leuck@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Jan 11, 1:31=A0pm, zek <ze...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Jan 11, 9:03=A0am, trad...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
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> > On Jan 11, 8:09=A0am, Smitty Two <prestwh...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > In article
> > > <580a5e4e-f39c-4dbd-8819-66c88be0b...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
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> > > =A0Evan <evan.news.re...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > On Jan 10, 11:51=A0pm, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > The issue to me isn't if they work well but that federal, state o=
r
> > > > > local governments shouldn't be mandating them. if the builder or
> > > > > customer wants them that's another story
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> > > > LOL... =A0And why not ?
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> > > > If something can save lives why not require it... =A0Especially
> > > > out there in the "heartland of America" where volunteer fire
> > > > protection rules the day...
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> > > > Smoke detectors =3D required
> > > > Carbon monoxide detectors =3D required
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> > > > automatic fire sprinklers =3D requirement coming soon
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> > > > Not just the public safety folks, but normal people are
> > > > starting to see the pattern of people dying in small home
> > > > fires as opposed to large multi-unit dwellings which have
> > > > had the requirement to be sprinkler protected for a while
> > > > now...
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> > > > How many people were electrocuted in the bathroom
> > > > at home before GFCI's became a requirement ?
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> > > > ~~ Evan
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> > > Thanks for your previous posts with good info about how these sprinkl=
er
> > > systems work. But I'm completely opposed to laws designed to protect =
me
> > > from myself. I have smoke detectors because I think they're a good id=
ea,
> > > but I don't have CO detectors, and I sure as hell don't want anyone
> > > telling me I need a sprinkler system.
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> > > As for GFCIs, absolute bullshit. The number of electrocutions in the
> > > home, in the U.S. is vanishingly small. I researched this a few years
> > > ago for an a.h.r. discussion, and IIRC, about ten times as many peopl=
e
> > > die by falling down while walking on level ground. A law requiring
> > > installation of tens of millions of devices in order to keep ~20 peop=
le
> > > per year alive is absolutely, positively insane.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > - Show quoted text -
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> > Whether you think requiring sprinklers in new homes is a good idea or
> > not, I think it's positively STUPID to pass this law in PA now, in the
> > middle of the worst housing recession since the Depression. =A0 Sort
> > of like passing national health insurance, imposing all kinds of
> > uncertaintity and new costs on businesses during the worst recession.
> > They can't sell houses now, so let's make them cost even more....
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> All the new homes I see built are for the rich. Screw them.
> Contractors
> don't want to build cheap houses. They make more money on the big
> ones.
>
> All the poorer people have to settle for used stuff. The people that
> don't like national
> health insurance, don't have many friends that need it.

> greg

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