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Re: Wireless system thoughts, please read and reply



On Jan 2, 11:50=A0am, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Jan 2, 12:53=A0pm, mister accavanno <mraccavanno...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Jan 2, 8:42=A0am, "Bill" <billnomailnosp...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > "mister accavanno" =A0wrote in message
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> > > > ...Jamming frequencies is where I am headed...
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> > > As to jamming wireless security devices or defeating security systems
> > > for that matter...
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> > > You will find that where defeating a security system is easy, there i=
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> > > not much financial gain for a thief and the typical thief would not b=
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> > > very smart (google dumb criminals). Like a drug addict or homeless
> > > person. They might break into a typical home and be looking for
> > > something they could sell at a pawn shop for $20 or $50.
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> > > So your typical crook breaking into a home is not going to know how t=
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> > > defeat an alarm or even care. If they did know how to do this, then
> > > they would instead have a well paying job!
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> > > For smart crooks who might know how to defeat an alarm, they are goin=
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> > > to go for a greater financial gain (something other than a home). BUT=
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> > > where items of greater value are stored, the level of security
> > > increases. There may be "duplication" of detection devices. Perhaps
> > > wireless along with wired. Or multiple frequency devices.
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> > > Then if it is something *really important*, there is no way anyone is
> > > going to defeat the alarm. There are some systems which are so
> > > complex, many of the employees at the alarm company don't understand
> > > how they work!
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> > > This Hollywood "bypass the alarm with a couple of jumper wires" is a
> > > lot of nonsense! The people working at the alarm company would not
> > > know how to do this, let alone a crook.
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> > > And for *really important* stuff, they also add physical layer
> > > security. You start seeing bars on windows or no windows. Solid
> > > concrete walls. Vaults, etc.
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> > > And beyond that they add 24 hour armed guards/dogs.
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> > > Beyond that, "specially trained" 24 hour armed guards (don't piss
> > > these people off! They are scary just to look at! Make me nervous jus=
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> > > to be in the same room with one...)
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> > > As to the private sector (non-government) systems, this all goes by
> > > insurance companies and historical losses. If there are a lot of
> > > losses (thefts), then the insurance companies will begin requiring
> > > higher levels of security. The required level of security will
> > > increase more and more until the losses are reduced or stopped.
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> > > And since insurance companies do not want to pay out money, they make
> > > darn sure the levels of security are appropriate for the specific
> > > situation.
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> > > So if someone could defeat an alarm and this begins happening, then
> > > the insurance companies would react and require a higher level of
> > > security. They would not allow the losses to continue.
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> > > Simple as that!
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> > Bill is the man. The only one on this newsgroup who knows how to reply
> > to a serious and sensitive subject without flaming the poster and
> > without disclosing industry secrets. The only man that deserves my
> > respect. Thank you Bill.-
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> The reason Bill is so tolerant is that he was not here to meet Paul.
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> You might also want to compare your relatively recent entry into the
> trade with the more than 200 or so years of combined experience that
> exists in this group. Do you think that you, with all of your self-
> admitted inexperience have anything at all new, that hasn't been
> experienced by at least one person here in the last 40 years or
> so ..... including the likes of people like you?
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> You are getting the response that you deserve. You can't come into a
> group of professionals, some who've been involved with this group for
> well over a decade and in the trade for four and five times that
> amount of time and "TELL" them, in effect, that you know more than
> they do and get pissed at them because they can spot people like you
> at your first posting. The very fact that you're being treated the way
> that you have been, is exactly because we've got the experience to
> know what you are. We wouldn't be professioals if we considered you
> viable and engaged in any dialog with you.
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> You're a fucking idiot who is too stupid to know that you're a fucking
> idiot. You are getting exactly what you qualify to get. Indifference
> and ridicule. Go play in another group. When you grow up, gain some
> knowlege, learn how to address people properly you will be treated as
> a peer. Until then ...... fuck off.

Wow, the biggest dimwit, jerkoff speaks up. And what a post of
intellectual facts, and information regarding my original post. First
of all, I have not TOLD anything to anyone in this newsgroup. I ASKED,
and respectably so, for information in a form of discussion. I thought
that this might be the venue where a newbie in the industry might come
to if he had a question or two, or three. You have a load of built up
anger inside you and I personally feel that you should be trolling in
the (alt.mental-health.help-me-with-my-anger) group. So unless you
have something informative to add to this newsgroup, you should go
fuck-off. Or you could just sit there with your favorite buttplug,(or
are you up to 2-liter bottles now) in your ass and continue to show
everyone here what an uneducated, angry, faggot you are.


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