Re: Wireless system thoughts, please read and reply

[mister accavanno <mraccavanno357@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Jan 2, 12:19=A0pm, mister accavanno <mraccavanno...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Jan 2, 11:50=A0am, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Jan 2, 12:53=A0pm, mister accavanno <mraccavanno...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote=
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> > > On Jan 2, 8:42=A0am, "Bill" <billnomailnosp...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > "mister accavanno" =A0wrote in message
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> > > > > ...Jamming frequencies is where I am headed...
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> > > > As to jamming wireless security devices or defeating security syste=
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> > > > for that matter...
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> > > > You will find that where defeating a security system is easy, there=
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> > > > not much financial gain for a thief and the typical thief would not=
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> > > > very smart (google dumb criminals). Like a drug addict or homeless
> > > > person. They might break into a typical home and be looking for
> > > > something they could sell at a pawn shop for $20 or $50.
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> > > > So your typical crook breaking into a home is not going to know how=
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> > > > defeat an alarm or even care. If they did know how to do this, then
> > > > they would instead have a well paying job!
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> > > > For smart crooks who might know how to defeat an alarm, they are go=
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> > > > to go for a greater financial gain (something other than a home). B=
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> > > > where items of greater value are stored, the level of security
> > > > increases. There may be "duplication" of detection devices. Perhaps
> > > > wireless along with wired. Or multiple frequency devices.
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> > > > Then if it is something *really important*, there is no way anyone =
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> > > > going to defeat the alarm. There are some systems which are so
> > > > complex, many of the employees at the alarm company don't understan=
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> > > > how they work!
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> > > > This Hollywood "bypass the alarm with a couple of jumper wires" is =
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> > > > lot of nonsense! The people working at the alarm company would not
> > > > know how to do this, let alone a crook.
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> > > > And for *really important* stuff, they also add physical layer
> > > > security. You start seeing bars on windows or no windows. Solid
> > > > concrete walls. Vaults, etc.
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> > > > And beyond that they add 24 hour armed guards/dogs.
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> > > > Beyond that, "specially trained" 24 hour armed guards (don't piss
> > > > these people off! They are scary just to look at! Make me nervous j=
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> > > > to be in the same room with one...)
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> > > > As to the private sector (non-government) systems, this all goes by
> > > > insurance companies and historical losses. If there are a lot of
> > > > losses (thefts), then the insurance companies will begin requiring
> > > > higher levels of security. The required level of security will
> > > > increase more and more until the losses are reduced or stopped.
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> > > > And since insurance companies do not want to pay out money, they ma=
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> > > > darn sure the levels of security are appropriate for the specific
> > > > situation.
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> > > > So if someone could defeat an alarm and this begins happening, then
> > > > the insurance companies would react and require a higher level of
> > > > security. They would not allow the losses to continue.
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> > > > Simple as that!
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> > > Bill is the man. The only one on this newsgroup who knows how to repl=
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> > > to a serious and sensitive subject without flaming the poster and
> > > without disclosing industry secrets. The only man that deserves my
> > > respect. Thank you Bill.-
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> > The reason Bill is so tolerant is that he was not here to meet Paul.
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> > You might also want to compare your relatively recent entry into the
> > trade with the more than 200 or so years of combined experience that
> > exists in this group. Do you think that you, with all of your self-
> > admitted inexperience have anything at all new, that hasn't been
> > experienced by at least one person here in the last 40 years or
> > so ..... including the likes of people like you?
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> > You are getting the response that you deserve. You can't come into a
> > group of professionals, some who've been involved with this group for
> > well over a decade and in the trade for four and five times that
> > amount of time and "TELL" them, in effect, that you know more than
> > they do and get pissed at them because they can spot people like you
> > at your first posting. The very fact that you're being treated the way
> > that you have been, is exactly because we've got the experience to
> > know what you are. We wouldn't be professioals if we considered you
> > viable and engaged in any dialog with you.
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> > You're a fucking idiot who is too stupid to know that you're a fucking
> > idiot. You are getting exactly what you qualify to get. Indifference
> > and ridicule. Go play in another group. When you grow up, gain some
> > knowlege, learn how to address people properly you will be treated as
> > a peer. Until then ...... fuck off.
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> Wow, the biggest dimwit, jerkoff speaks up. And what a post of
> intellectual facts, and information regarding my original post. First
> of all, I have not TOLD anything to anyone in this newsgroup. I ASKED,
> and respectably so, for information in a form of discussion. I thought
> that this might be the venue where a newbie in the industry might come
> to if he had a question or two, or three. You have a load of built up
> anger inside you and I personally feel that you should be trolling in
> the (alt.mental-health.help-me-with-my-anger) group. So unless you
> have something informative to add to this newsgroup, you should go
> fuck-off. Or you could just sit there with your favorite buttplug,(or
> are you up to 2-liter bottles now) in your ass and continue to show
> everyone here what an uneducated, angry, faggot you are.

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