Re: Health care (again) -- WAS: DSC 832 on Cable VoIP

[mleuck <m.leuck@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Jan 20, 1:05=A0pm, G. Morgan <usenet_ab...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Health care is already dead. =A0It's the health care "reform" that's up
> in the air now.

The government can't "reform" anything, all they can do is make it
worse

> I dislocated my shoulder in October, it took the insurance company
> over a month to approve surgery. =A0Then it took another 2 months to cut
> through all the red-tape to finally get on the operating table. =A0Then
> post-op, it took another month to get physical therapy approved (it
> was denied TWICE by the insurance company) and went to peer-review.
>
> I take it Mark, you have not actually had to use your heath insurance
> for anything other than routine stuff.  Otherwise, I'm sure your
> opinion would be much different.

You take it wrong, I broke my hip early last year and had surgery 2
days later, insurance (Blue Cross) went with the hospital and doctor I
chose, even paid for some of the meds which I needed very little of. I
paid about 6 grand and insurance paid the rest which totaled somewhere
around 40. Not quite as nice as the appendix surgery in the mid 90's,
40 grand total of which I think I paid 800 which for some reason was
refunded back to me later.

Sounds like you need new insurance

> Now I need pain-management because my surgeon only supplies pain med's
> 6 weeks post-op. =A0It took 2 weeks to get a referral, and once
> approved, the next available appt. is on Jan 28th. =A0I have about 2
> days worth of med's left. =A0So I'm looking at pain and possible opiate
> withdrawal for all of next week.
>
> Yeah, the current system works just fine. <sarcasm>

For me yes

> I love the fact that giant corporations control my health care
> destiny, instead of the doctors.

And yet it sounds like you are willing to give it to the giant
government which somehow will make it all better, have fun with that

> While I was at the orthopedic hospital I noticed an older couple in
> the elevator speaking with a British accent. =A0I couldn't help but to
> ask if they were from there. =A0It turns out they were, and I asked them
> what they thought of our "system". =A0Boy, did I get an ear full. =A0We
> talked for 15 minutes about how the wife got jerked around just like
> me. =A0And she told me how much better the British system is. =A0In fact,
> she was actually considering flying back there to have her needs taken
> care of, as it would actually be faster and cheaper to eat the cost of
> the airfare and hassle we receive.

Ask her why they started with a "free" service then later added an
expensive pay service (it's because the "free" service is so bad), You
think you had to wait for surgery on your shoulder? Try getting it
done anywhere else, people made fun of Palin for bringing up death
panels but they do have the equivalent government groups over there
deciding who gets what and when. There is no instance where government-
run healthcare works without huge taxes, rationing and shitty service.
If you want to complain about your coverage blame government not the
"big corporations"

What you don't understand is healthcare is not a right, it's not cheap
and never will be, someone has to pay for it and all government can do
is screw it up like it did Medicare, Social Security, Head Start, Post
Office, Welfare.

Only a fool would support what was being run through Congress the last
few months