Re: Off Topic - But Heinous

["Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Wayne Throop wrote:
>>> A great deal of the Web goes OVER the Internet.  But they're not
>>> identical.
>
>> Mike Ash <mike@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> The web is a fairly integral part of the modern internet.  To say
>> that the internet is just TCP/IP is to be somewhat disingenuous at
>> this point.  The US created large portions of it, but the web is a
>> big chunk too.  You really can't say that any one individual entity
>> invented it.
>
> Well.  HTTP and HTML has a slightly better case for "one person"
> inventing it (based on lots of other pre-existing ideas wrt hypertext
> and network protocols and such, but still).  Which was done under the
> auspices of CERN.
>
> Any given protocol has a similar story, of course.  Though I'm not
> sure if IP really had a single designer. in quite the same way as
> HTTP.
>
> However, it's entirely fair to point out that "the web" and "the
> internet" are, indeed, not identical.  "The internet" is often
> considered to be the suite of IP-based protocols (and maybe the data
> being transported byt hem, and/or some of the hardware upon which
> they run). The fact that this includes HTTP, and HTTP is very often
> used to transport HTML, doesn't make them identical, any more than a
> building and it's plumbing are identical, or a car and its
> drivetrain, or a city and its traffic lights... or perhaps more apt,
> a city and the cars and roads.

The internet would be the public roads.  Cars can also run on private ones,
nd in fact there are intrawebs  that run on private networks.